Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:32 PM Author: rusted seedy forum mental disorder
US military command: deep state or anti-populist to the man
Rank and file: many minorities or white people who are grateful for benefits military service and employment provides, including the COLLEGE Ed that XO despises
Rural gun hoarders are going to stay in their towns and farms, they’re not going to the coastal cities to get blown up by drones or get stuck in traffic. Most will support the troops no matter what even if many are black and brown (2A Oath Keepers type idolize institutions like THE CORPS and cops without regard for actual demographics)
Libs will do nothing but blog and Tweet. Same as neoreactionaries and most alt-right leaders
Dumbass antifa and MAGA Proud Boys having street scuffles with no fatalities do not count as civil war, you drama queens
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:35 PM Author: gaped resort macaca
To be a civil war at least one group has to fight, once one does the question is how it breaks down from there. Obviously not having any civil war is likely but ljl at libs having a shot if it happens. Maybe high command is deep state enough to never rebel, but it only takes one general.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:37 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
I think you're underestimating the risk of a civil war. I have friends on both sides and they both appear to be making preparations that a generation ago would have appeared to be ludicrous--setting up compounds, researching methods of war, trying to conduct technological research to gain an edge in some hypothetical near-future conflict. There's a major conflagration brewing beneath the placid surface of this society.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:40 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
Both sides of the divide. You have two fundamental components of society that are increasingly at loggerheads with each other and trying to change the shape of the curve of the future. You can call them what you want--libs and cons, blues and reds, Burkes and Paynes, Jilindis and Jogostas. There are clashing visions out there--think like two tsunami waves running across the Gulf of Aden toward a massive whitewater clash. Things are going to get fucked and you're either going to declare a crew and mount up or you're going to end up washed into the messy middle. I'm trying to stay out of it but I feel pulled in already with the news and shit
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:45 PM Author: rusted seedy forum mental disorder
What divide is this even. Border control? Gay marriage? Estate tax policy?
Both sides still shop on Amazon and watch America’s Got Talent, consumerism has seen that they all share the same culture at the end of the day.
You’re suggesting that militarism is growing when the empire is receding, pulling troops out from Syria and Afghanistan. Yeah those vets who spent time dodging bullets in Kandahar really want to fight a war at home when peace is at hand, get real
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:48 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
I'm saying these principles that we're fighting over run deep, man. Deeper than they did a generation or two ago. I'm seeing it in the language that's being used, in the conflict that's already spurting up through the surface of the edifice of manners and politeness. I don't see why it's such a wild idea that this could break out into something bigger than just dinner table disputes over over-warmed turkey and cheap TJ wine. People have died over this shit for generations across the globe and I think it's myopic to think that it couldn't happen here. I feel it in my own town; I feel this undercurrent of violence that's rising, wrapping its talons around our collective necks, poisoning our discourse and our civility. People are trying to push the ball forward in both camps and they're push that ball toward warfare.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:50 PM Author: Arousing nowag
People can't even agree that America should even be a sovereign country anymore. The divide is wide open now and there's nothing to bind people together anymore. One spark, one major incident and things could get ugly real fast.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:47 PM Author: ponyboy curtis
You actually know people setting up compounds, researching methods of war, trying to conduct technological research to gain an edge in some hypothetical near-future conflict?
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:51 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
I'm middle America bro, about as whitebread and cornfed as they come. This shit is likely to break out in the center first, because the coasts are still distracted with the bread and circuses. I know I sound like some sort of doomsday soothsayer but I'm not on that. I'm reflecting on what I'm witnessing in ordinary towns that I travel to for my job and where I live. Shit is getting out of hand and heated and yes that includes off the book / entity obscured real estate purchases in defensible areas. Here's the thing: we can either prepare for this physically and psychologically and at least be ready for when it "hits" or we can be taken by surprise and enjoy our own personal Robespierre experience. I'm going to be in Group A.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:57 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
It's funny, I'm coming at it from about the opposite perspective. Where I grew up, I saw death sometimes daily and it's not something I want to see again. So I'm not looking forward to it. But I feel like it's this inevitable thing that's barreling toward us, ready to make its burn mark on the page of our collective national history. I don't want it to happen but I fear it and prepare for it along with everyone else with a reasonable head on their shoulders, if that makes an ounce of sense?
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:13 PM Author: coiffed station idiot
I’m fully prepared for it, and as unpleasant as it will be, civil wars have happened before. We have so much hatred and tension here, think it just needs to happen.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:04 PM Author: Hairraiser buck-toothed philosopher-king
reluctantly agree. once full-blown SJWs (AOC) take over the government, they'll enforce reparations. they'll send whites to Diversity Camps where they will be forced to undergo Sensitivity Training.
since denying privilege is actually violence to black, brown, and LGBTQ bodies, this Privilege Training will be enforced by physical punishment if necessary.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:43 PM Author: Milky nudist field boistinker
they will fight the elites because the elites are giving the nonwhite invaders permission to kill whites, and such murders will be viewed over the web by all whites, causing a revolt...
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:46 PM Author: Arousing nowag
Once a civil war broke out, both sides aren't going to stop until the other is crushed. It's going to make the first Civil War look like a minor skirmish. In the first Civil War, both sides prayed to the same God, had the same heritage, same language, etc. There's nothing binding the different factions now. They can't even agree on basic facts of reality now.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:39 PM Author: Arousing nowag
redpilled southern veterans would be running guerilla ops on shitlib cities and bughives. They'd be knocking out comms, knocking out electrical power, blocking roads in and out of cities, hitting water treatment facilities, etc. It would not be pretty and all these targets are so easy to knock out. It would cause mass chaos in the cities and the mud people who tear their shitlib masters apart
Date: January 22nd, 2019 5:44 PM Author: Milky nudist field boistinker
or the future white rebels might steal big rigs and fill them full of gasoline/lng and drive them and then park them under the freeway overpasses on the outskirts of big cities...the explosions take out the freeways...no food...
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:04 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
Man, let me give you some unsolicited advice that I got from my uncle: "jengit terri lok penus kalafa mer posa kalafu mer garu." There are rough roads and smooth roads, it's our choice which ones we walk on. There's no reason to go about life being angry and mean to people. Another phrase he liked: "soco mater penusa mali sed karetu kareti." Life circles back on itself. Meaning if you throw off that angry vibe life is gonna hit you with its angry self. Look, I don't know you from Adam and I don't mean to single you out, maybe you're just having a bad day. Anyway, good talking with you and peace.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:08 PM Author: Shimmering mildly autistic tanning salon national security agency
Okay. I hope you find your journey that leads you away from needing to make comments like that one day. We're trying to talk about some serious stuff in this thread. Potentially world-changing stuff. It's nonsense to just come in here and be an asshole to everyone. Spread knowledge and love. Terri jugunta malok penus tio--light brings in more light.
1960 OP: “Most of the Vietnamese army are under the control of the French, so u know they won’t revolt. They’ll definitely be in French side entire war. LJL at any Vietnamese war lasting more than 5 minutes.”
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:14 PM Author: Mint fanboi wagecucks
It’ll be more of a full stop participation in the government via taxes and property rights than an armed conflict, IMO. Lots of jury nullification for government enforcement.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:16 PM Author: Milky nudist field boistinker
also possibly coordinated bank account withdrawals to cause bank run panics, which the yellow vest french have been talking about...if you hurt GC enough, GC will cave...
Date: January 22nd, 2019 7:22 PM Author: Milky nudist field boistinker
maybe, but one big showstopper to all these scenarios is that there would have to be widespread economic suffering before they happen...as long as the elites can continue to cram in immigration, the economy will stay fairly good and home prices will stay up...there would have to be a cessation of most immigration for the economy to collapse
Date: January 22nd, 2019 10:44 PM Author: nofapping personal credit line
I think the military will not split. It's setup so people from different states are all mixed up randomly, same with race. They will follow orders and kick in as many doors and drone as many people as they want to put down a rebellion. They can't just desert and go fight for the other side easily
Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:33 PM Author: nofapping personal credit line
state militias?? Mostly inactive, small, and no heavy weapons. Cmon. Yeah I just don't see a bunch of now 30something vets giving up normal life to run around the hills and get sniped by drones carrying hellfires. Also, who will pay their bills and support their families while they play guerrilla?
For it to be a civil war, and not a mere insurrection, you need both sides to have logistics, ability to collect taxes, and significant weapons. I don't see state governments themselves breaking off like in the civil war. Pissed off vets could possibly hold out for a while, maybe fund themselves with criminal activity or foreign funding but that will not have lasting power.
Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:13 AM Author: nofapping personal credit line
the side that controls the military will win. Right now I am not confident that Trump is in control of anything, given how he is undermined by republicucks and deep staters everywhere.
Leftists have no reason to start an insurrection or attempt secession because they are in control of the government and media. It's the right's move to play. They need to keep fighting the propaganda war and win there. An insurrection or secession attempt will not play well at this time, far too early. It would demonized by the media betrayed by cucks.
The Russians will fund one group. The Chinese will fund another. We will make many bets in Macau as to whose group does better. The casinos will make good money
like all civil wars the outcome will depend on the region.
the northeast corridor will remain intact and safe like damascus has during the entire syrian conflict.
the rest will be about how willing the northeast and dc is to use military force and for how long over how large of the country.
(assuming not a legit coupe takeover where some infantry major general tries to take over NYC)
but lol if you think even the ones who would fight will be willing to carry it on for years in the face of military policed zones. we arent jihadists. there are only a couple of regions in this country with the will and true disgruntledness to fight the necessary fight to actually break away from the union.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:38 PM Author: Curious site
it will be a peaceful secession FIRST, into some northern enclave of the US, comprising some of the northern states maybe.
but once white ppl all move to one region of the US and establish borders, the natural law of migration will take effect: Wherever The White People Are, Everyone Else Will Follow and Insist Upon Living Among the 'Racist' Whites.
at which point, the 'civil war' will be initiated as a DEFENSIVE action.
Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:41 PM Author: Disgusting balding space
Race_War_of_2019
MAGA crusaders wearing Fallout armor establish a beachhead position in San Fran. Despite being armed with impressively realistic airsoft guns, MAGA troops fail to gain ground and are quickly repelled by Black Israelite insults.
Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:12 AM Author: indecent electric indirect expression
This thread is kind of odd. A lot of wishful thinking and fantasy, one of which is that this is being prepared and is "hard truths, tough guy" thinking.
The comments here sound like a bunch of stereotypes bandied around about "bearded, gun-loving prepper" vs left-wing soyboy. Does anyone think that if a real civil war broke out, that leftists would even rely on soyboys and cat ladies to do the fighting?
A comment above was spot on about how in 1960s, the French they thought the Vietnamese were obedient and an asset of the Republic. No one could believe that those "little men in black pajamas" could defeat the French, let alone the US. The French in the early stages of the war thought also that they just had to show up with their first world army, slap around the Viets a bit, and that this independence thing would go away. If there was an actual shooting war (which thankfully, probably wont happen), there would be millions of third worlders fighting on behalf of leftists. As bad-ass as the right like to think they are, there's a certain quality in quantity. Furthermore, don't underestimate the capabilities of third worlders. A lot of Latin Americans have essentially been fighting a kind of civil war in their countries (i.e., the Drug War in Mexico). They've gotten quite creative and resourceful in how they conduct themselves. I could see leftists turning to straight up gangs and other "bad dudes" to do the fighting for them in exchange for concessions like political recognition if they win. Right wingers might find that if the shit hits the fan they might be on the wrong side of the learning curve for awhile.
50% of female troops are Democrats, 23% male (with 20% "independent"). Now you could say the majority of combat troops or whatever are die-hard Republicans who would die for some white nationalist America (or whatever you think is the political goal here that people would die for). Don't underestimate the importance of support and logistics in war.
Furthermore, if majority white (and far more conservative and openly racist America) could not sack up to angry minorities in the past, what makes you think that they'd do so now? The right wing guy of today is not as "badass" as the dudes from before as well who typically had a much tougher upbringing, with a higher proportion performing military training, etc.
Finally, foreign influence - a white nationalist civil war against predominately minorities will not make America look good. Every country out there, who have the balls to fight (i.e., not the traditional allies of the US, countries like the EU), will support these leftists. A divided, coastal vs the interior America would be an incredible opportunity for these countries to get in part of the action, if only to completely destroy a geopolitical opponent (i.e., Russia). America would be totally destroyed as a serious contender for a generation, if not more.
The best hope for a traditional America would be to achieve the political goals of reducing immigration, establish a sustainable conservative political and social environment through things like trying to revive industries like manufacturing, raising the birth rate of whites, etc.
Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:47 AM Author: 180 goyim
This is stupid and wrong on many levels.
The French did not think the Vietnamese were stupid compliant losers wearing black pajamas. The Vietnamese had been engaged in guerilla warfare for decades before 1960, most recently with the French and before that the Japanese and the Chinese before that.
The battle of Dien Bien Phu occured in 1954 and by then French colonial was effectively over with the complete collapse of French military forces. But even before 1954, since the end of WWII and Japanese withdrawal the Vietnamese were engaged in guerilla warfare against the French and the French knew they were in a hopeless fight, but stuck it out for reason's of national pride and maintaining one of their last overseas colonies.
The 23% male or 50% female being democrat is complete hogwash. The military does not keep track of political affiliations, and what little data exists are typically informal surveys by like the Army Times or whatnot of a limited sample size. Interestingly, a Military Times survey showed that Democrats among those polled decreased from 14% to 8% from 2006 to 2014.
The military is vastly right leaning and from ARE country and will NEVER follow a liberal into combat against their fellow Americans. They would however HAPPILY follow a conservative into combat against purple haired ANTFIA types.
Logistics and supply chain would be critical, but whoever controls the military can control food sources and gas and factories. A single tank together with an infantry squad can hold off a mob of thousands.
The liberals would have literally nothing to fight back with, and would likely resort to current ANTIFA tactics by engaging in riots, protests and general destruction of public and private property. It would be impossible for the military to police all this destruction, which would lead to private citizens taking matters into their own hands.
Date: January 23rd, 2019 4:02 AM Author: Unhinged rough-skinned lodge immigrant
About 3% actually fought in the American revolution. It does not take that many people to start an insurrection. The US has largely avoided the type of civil war/revolution/coups that have plagued much of the world in the not so distant past. It also has largely avoided the type of targeted rebellion that even Western European countries have had (e.g. IRA). Why? Who knows? Good economy? Good survailence? Remember the militia movement of the 90s? The radical liberals in the 70s? What would happen today if we had similar types of attacks? What if they had widespread support? Look at the impact of 9/11 on society. What if instead of rioting and breaking windows the ANTIFA started bombing things? Would the government crack down? Would that gain ANTIFA more supporters? What if the next election really is rigged? This seems a lot less far fetched than before. What if a Bush/Gore situation happened between TRUMP and an ultralib? Would the losing side accept the outcome? The answer to all of these scenarios is that everything will probably work itself out, but if you layer on an economic crisis, that’s a whole different story. Or an outside attack to destabilize the country — one nuke or a series of 9/11 style coordinated attacks. Think post-Katrina on a national scale. How does that end?
Date: January 23rd, 2019 7:55 AM Author: titillating violent hissy fit garrison
Remember that militarized group of antifa soyboys and femmes who bravely stormed that gay rehabilitation clinic and freed all those prisoners of the homophobic patriarchy?
Oh wait I was thinking of that bunch of insane right wing militias supporting a redneck farmer named Bundy and staging a literal armed uprising against the state police, FBI and bureau of land management to rescue a bunch of fucking CATTLE.
LJL at shitlibs ever doing anything other than breaking an occasional Starbucks window.