Date: November 1st, 2020 3:18 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
No. Libs are a good portion of the officer class but most enlisted, especially NCOs, are right wing. If push comes to shove, they've got very few shooters.
Date: November 1st, 2020 3:48 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
Who else would a military unit report up to? Biden? An “elected” president who isn’t sworn in under the constitution until late January? No way. There is no one they could report up to. Nancy Pelosi? LJL.
Date: November 1st, 2020 3:59 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
Two main scenarios:
1. The election outcome is disputed and SCOTUS refuses to intervene, deeming it a “political question” and basically telling congress and the executive to duke it out. The “establishment” (US House, media, big corps, deep state) lines up against trump. The senate sides with trump, along with most of the executive branch.
2. The election is disputed, SCOTUS sides with the Dems and declares Biden the winner, but Trump and the executive ignore the ruling and declare it invalid. The senate and some lower courts side with Trump.
How could it be disputed? One way is that in the days after Election Day, fOllowing credible allegations of voter fraud, GOP state legislatures change the state laws regarding the selection of electors and just pick them themselves. Democrats try to send their own elected to DC anyways. It’s a big shit show and the electoral college vote is called off, or multiple sets of electors hold multiple votes.
Date: November 1st, 2020 7:26 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
Either quickly as the anti-trump side tries to take control of DC and force trump out. Or else slowly over time (or never) as the anti trump side forma a shadow Capitol in NYC or San Fran it somewhere like that.
Date: November 1st, 2020 7:28 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
Well, as the senate did in the Roman civil war or the House of Commons in the English civil war, our senate or our house could take direct command of a faction of our military.
If the senate were to support trump, that would simply mean that it would take the position that the military must continue to follow him. I could also see the senate starting to pass laws without the consent is the House and basically declare that the house is irrelevant.
Date: November 1st, 2020 7:32 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
Which Roman civil war would that be? The Social war? Sulla's first or second civil war? Caesar's civil war? The Sertorian civil war? The Liberators' civil war? The one where Octavian crushed Antony's brother and wife (I can't remember the name)? I'm assuming you mean Caesar's, but you should be more specific.
What's more, this had precedence because the Senate was made up of powerful families who all had military experience -- this is far less likely today given our current senate's dearth of experience leading soldiers. Logistics are too hard for them to manage today.
Date: November 1st, 2020 7:43 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
Yes JC’s. The point is not that the Lindsay Graham would suddenly become a field commander, it’s that the senate could legitimize and coordinate with a faction of the exist US military. Why are you being evasive?
Date: November 1st, 2020 8:01 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
I meant mechanics as in no one will give a shit about having to get bicameral legislation etc. Obviously the logistics of getting beans and bullets to the first armored division would be critical.
Date: November 1st, 2020 3:26 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
ljl only by force of personality, if at all. Trump would have tremendous enlisted support and the brass would be largely traitorous. There would be a serious schism, left would have very few shooters actually with them but they'd have a majority of the officers.
Date: November 1st, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
I agree that the top brass would try to oppose Trump, but they’d be quickly liquidated by other ambitious officers below them. Probably 80%+ of active units would side with Trump.
Date: November 1st, 2020 2:57 AM Author: Magical crystalline mad-dog skullcap laser beams
They know. There's a reason that as pissed as they sometimes get, the threat is never secession; they fantasize about adding PR and DC as states and shit instead.
Date: November 1st, 2020 3:29 PM Author: fishy genital piercing
Trumptards somehow believe that the entire US government is anti-Trump but somehow believe it won’t be used to crush their little losers temper tantrum.
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:05 PM Author: flushed frisky people who are hurt giraffe
libs are far, far better organized and funded and have the full backing of the US gov, military leadership, media, most mainstream religions, academia, all corporations, social media, etc.
people rooting for any sort of "civil war" are idiots.
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
40% of voters oppose them, majority of military enlisted will side with the right, plenty of right wing billionaires, right wing proles are far more capable than left wing proles
how the fuck do people think this isn't a rightwing blowout lmao
virtually all of the institutions the left owns only matter when violence is off the table
5th Gen warfare only works until it's countered by 3rd Gen Warfare -- bullets beat words every time
Lol at right wing billionaires. Where do they choose to live...Manhattan or Tuscaloosa? And those institutions the proles need to take over are mostly in...Northern Virginia, DC, and Cali
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:25 PM Author: Soggy Cuckoldry
How would you characterize the key or essential point of dispute between the left and the right in this civil war? i.e., what are the key things the right coalition you have sketched out wants here that the left is opposed to (or vice versa)?
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
There aren't clearcut right and left coalitions -- I don't think it's that organized and I don't think either side has monolithic or easily articulable goals.
I don't think that will prevent violence.
I think the fundamental disputes revolve around:
- the role the state should play in enforcing order (and what an acceptable definition of public order is)
- cultural differences between whites and blacks
- whether elites are responsible for poverty, what constitutes wealth [e.g. $300k in net worth or $300m], and how to address this
- acceptance or rejection of public degeneracy (e.g. child transsexualism, homosexual """marriage""")
- whether systematic oppression exists, and -- if so -- whether that confers obligations or privileges to classes of people
- who should have guns
- whether one side is being politically disenfranchised (e.g. electoral college v. popular vote, court composition)
I think many people have muddled positions on these things; I nonetheless think there will be plenty who are moved to violence on both sides if they think they are being fucked by the other side.
Date: November 1st, 2020 5:02 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
No. That's less than 100 bullets for every *person.* Not everyone is going to be a combatant, and those who are have a high predisposition to stocking up.
To put that 8 billion number in perspective, the entire U.S. military -- including training ammo -- used around 1.8 billion rounds in 2009, which was during heavy Iraq and Afghanistan deployment.
There's going to be plenty of ammo to get things going; sustaining years upon years of combat is another question.
Date: November 1st, 2020 5:19 PM Author: Nubile wonderful lettuce
I counted 100 million "soldiers". Every soldier routinely carries 200 bullets PER BATTLE. Do you think libs can sustain themselves when the other side gets an unlimited supply of bullets?
Date: November 1st, 2020 5:35 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
I think that probably radically overestimates number of combatants. I think at most it'll be 20m -- and that'll take a long time to fully develop.
You're correct that soldiers regularly take 2-300 rounds on them, although most recent opinion from SOF guys is that this is heavier than necessary, and 5 mags is sufficient, especially for guerilla work.
did you mean to say libs or cons there? If the right has unlimited bullets, that's even less of a contest lol. If you meant the right, I do in fact think the can sustain themselves because they have a lot more food, and are generally much better prepared for warfare.
Again, I don't think it'll be a contest if it gets to that. The much better argument for libs is that it never will and no one will counter the information based 5th Gen Warfare with 3rd/4th Gen Warfare, because of lib societal control through institutional power. I've elsewhere on the bort explained why I think that's untenable, but it's far better than trying to say that the libs will own weapons companies lol. Do you know who owns the Olin Group and Vista Outdoor? Not likely to be libs lol.
Date: November 1st, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Henna Kitchen
A “civil war” would end up with the S&P 500, bonds, and other financial assets all down by 75% immediately, and rich boomers / GOPers would put a stop to it. Civil war doesn’t benefit anyone.
Date: November 1st, 2020 8:55 PM Author: Concupiscible jew
If you're saying that elites are necessary for civil war, they only are able to do so when supported by a mass of angry or desperate proles. There are typically a few elites leading the charge, but it's not absolutely necessary (e.g. Russian revolution) -- and they get killed off frequently anyway (e.g. French Revolution).
Date: November 1st, 2020 7:39 PM Author: Elite Cordovan Chad
A bloodless coup is far more likely than a civil war. Either Trump stays in power and dissolves due other branches by an EO, or he is removed in the dark of night and Biden or HRC or whoever is put in.
Date: November 1st, 2020 8:19 PM Author: trip topaz garrison
I see it as more of a Northern Ireland troubles kind of thing. Trump would retain power since all the cops and military rank and file support him but libs would start an on and off bombing campaign
Date: November 1st, 2020 10:34 PM Author: yellow frozen international law enforcement agency hospital
Remember this fags. There are no red cities in blue states. Only blue cities in red states. Cut the lifeline of food/supplies and its over. Reds control all the territory.
We aren't going to bus into inner city Chicago and wage urban conflict, just cut them off and let the Diversity start eating all the lib Whites until they are on our side.
Also, I am not cutting these fucking bitches any slack. I am for equality like a motherfucker. These whores can die too.