Date: March 17th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: Maroon thirsty masturbator church
I can live with that. Trying to help him move on. If you haven't heard his music it's 180 billion. Encourage him to release it. It's actually good and top level XO art.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:25 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
you act like such a little kike. the arkan screams out as he hits you.
you started sperging out when tbtp came back, especially when she poasted lewds and started flirting with dudes. stop getting triggered like a little bitch. there is no campaign against you, you sperg out and make all these gay threats and when people call you out you're scream out like a kike "i'm being atttacked!"
if you can't handle seeing an ex on xo without going mental than perhaps you're not mentally strong enough to be here.
Date: March 17th, 2022 10:37 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
at its core, there's really only two behaviors of interest
1 - box posting nudes here
2 - me insulting her for 1 (because it caused me pain but thats neither here nor there)
you're saying 1 is defensible and 2 is go to a mental hospital. 2 is far more normal and healthy behavior than 1, and it actually makes me feel great because the process itself forces me to actually engage the reality about her to construct insults rather than the ghost i have in my head. letting 2 run its natural course is actually the best way to handle it.
but really disgusting and shameful self-interests motivates "simps" to put up a show of "defeating" 2 so 1 can continue. because 1 is a whore who fucks you if you email her.
you don't understand that you are a supreme loser on a deep spiritual level
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:21 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
it is my theory that women have developed through natural selection a sophisticated entrapment mechanism that envelops a schizoid core, the former of which is adaptive towards tricking men closer in to their schizoid core through compliments, sexual incentives and other forms of enticement ("i'm fascinated by you!" which has been used on me, believe it or not). The schizoid core can be thought of as a schodinger box of acceptance and rejection. And this sophisticated entrapment mechanism is mostly unconscious, so unconscious in fact that when a woman rejects a man with a flip of the schizoid core, she in many ways denies ever having attempted the entrapment. It is a truly sick natural product, the female psychology is. The only thing a man can do is recognize that the schizoid core is nondeterminant; there is nothing one can do to influence its position, and so one should act accordingly.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
As a product of natural selection, there is little to blame. The same should be understood about a man's response in anger. These are products of primitive times.
mig you've poasted alongside me for months now, and we've chatted and meme threaded. has it ever seemed like i was intentionally antagonizing him in any way?? i'm just here to have fun poasting with friends and talk about scifi and queerthread or whatever happens to be the kooky nite crew meme of the day. sprinkle in some covid shit too.
i ignored him for months and this recent outburst was bc he catfished me on my throwaway and i mentioned i was seeing a diff guy. he has all these paranoid notions of people conspiring against him (which admittedly some people have contributed to over the last few days by trying to troll him) and of my actions being designed to hurt him
legit i'm not some evil siren and idk why you're falling for this. he's literally so full of shit
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:45 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
I see this, and I know instantly how to dismantle it. But with borderline people, they will always drive you to fatigue because by engaging you're making the assumption that they're capable of giving you something back for the Reason you put in. Just very, very quickly and this does no justice
actually, never mind. If there's enough interest I could build a small presentation replaying a manipulative plot on board just using thread titles with dates and private comms. It's not worth it, though. It'll never be acknowledged. And you have to have been the target of this so many countless times to really grok it. (You'll get fucked over and over during the course of the actual relationship - but it never ends with the breakup, and it's always the same BPD game which is very powerful but not complex abstractly.)
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:51 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
I don't have all the facts. My hypothesis is there is some irl relationship between the three of you related to music making. It did appear last night, perhaps out of your exasperation, that you and hatp were making jokes to amplify his suspicion (paranoia?) that you and he were in some kind of sexual relationship. That was well into his episode (a word I am not using in a pejorative way), however. You do seem to have a genuine interest in poasting here, and I do not think you have an obligation to stop.
I do not know, either, why he is "pursuing" you again (what prompted him to "catfish" you?). From what I gather, your relationship with him ended a long time ago. If there was a sexual liaison in the interim (between then and now), that may account for it.
The bottom line is he sees something in you that he wants to own, control, or become. It is his responsibility to understand that and not to bother you, imo.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:51 PM Author: Soul-stirring mother
This is very credited. There is a lot we don’t know. It’s bothersome that such histrionics are portrayed here, but there are still “lines that won’t be crossed” regarding further details. It’s like being subjected to mom and dad screaming at each other and them yelling at you when you try to intervene. I really just wish this was dealt with off board. FWIW that falls on Arkan. Unless he plans to do an info dump, I don’t see the utility in any of this.
arkan and i dated irl in 2015-2017 and he's been unable to cease communication over any medium since then, despite my asking him to do so.
HATP and i have been seeing each other for like a couple weeks but didn't originally want that to be bort knowledge.
the music thing isn't flame or a joke at his expense!! arkan made what i can only describe as a meme album, and it's honestly 🔥. i showed a song to HATP and a couple other people and we all unironically enjoy it.
Date: March 17th, 2022 10:03 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
"catfishing"
she created several threads and posts asking for peoples emails because she wants to share something she can't post on the board (this was contemporaneous with her threat to file a RO against me)
she presented herself as a private oracle for my personal information and knew i would be drawn in to discover exactly what she was sharing (turns out it was just my music, but of course she knew i would think its more, and in fact it invites people to further discuss and for her to further disclose). it also served the dual purpose of engaging posters one-on-one to do BPD shit with that she knows would also antagonize me.
Date: March 17th, 2022 10:07 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
You have to withdrawal the projection. if you think she is manipulative and destructive, then your seeking after her is scratching that itch in yourself. If she is so despicable, why are you trying to pursue her?
There is an attachment that i know I am inflaming by telling you this. there will be a feeling of loss when you really see her the way you describe her. but once you let yourself see her that way (which you are not currently doing, because you're invested and attached), you can let her go.
But you wont let yourself see her that way. You want to see the good in her. You want to fix her, because you want to fix yourself. How can you heal the manipulative BPD person in yourself? That is who youre really attached to.
She is trying to improve herself, but you still see all these good things shes trying to do in the light of her past behavior. people really do try to change. she is legitimately trying to do better by people, and shes still imperfect, but you can let her go. she will be ok man
Date: March 17th, 2022 10:11 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
er i think its mostly that i have this image of the person i sacrificed for and developed irl scars for (bpd people will literally fuck up your life, as in things will be destroyed you cant rebuild - relationships, health, career, fetuses, whatever irl) and i want it to be worth it subconsciously so i keep insisting that this person is good.
i feel most free when im disgusted with her and very often (especially now) i really do feel that way almost entirely. box actually picked up on this and made a remark like "he's either flaming me or in a terrible state" and then when i flame her for being here she responds by fucking a poster and doxxing me lol. flaming is actually letting go and all these simps come in to block me and pretend like theyre doing me a favor lmao
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:25 PM Author: Soul-stirring mother
It is really sick. The core of this whole problem with him is that only way to win is not to play. Women have been acting as sirens for all of human history. That’s part of feminine psychology. You can’t get mad at it. You’re only option is to rise above it and become immovable. If Arkan would do this, it would be an incredible redemption story and ironically it would be the biggest way to BTFO the Box.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:28 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
If you saw me in real life for 5 seconds you'd absolutely fucking lose it. You think I didn't know what was happening when you were alone in a hotel room a quick ride from my home a few months ago? I know you're not capable of acknowledging this complex because its rooted in an immensely powerful fear, but I understand it. I've known you a long time. That's why I did what I did.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
Is this, in your opinion, a reasonable expectation, given that there may be an entanglement of the "primitive" enticement faculty of your mind/soul with this "pursuing" faculty in him? It seems like he is working to offramp, but there is a lot to unwind.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:32 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
This is going to sound strange to you, but you don't know what you're talking to. On many levels, she's smart, she's normal. But there are some areas of her mind you can never furnish with reason. There's a part of her that's just a different beast.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:34 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
I'm just asking questions to who i presume is a woman, to understand her expectations.
I could ask the same to you. Given that you have become entangled with this "enticement mechanism" of her mind/soul, what are your expectations for re-directing your "pursuing mechanism"? What needs to be resolve before this happens?
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:36 PM Author: Soul-stirring mother
I think you probably believe that, and I also think you would be lying if part of you hasn’t been loving the attention you’ve been getting. (I know you have denied this, but frankly I just don’t think you’re being fully honest.)
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:04 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
I'm not responding to her, but rather the audience, for the Fatigue principle above:
She says this, and it's truly part of her self-story that lays a thin but precious cover over her most sensitive inner spiritual organs that at times put her in immense pain you as a normal person will never come close to appreciating. But if you examine the precise actions that make up this "ignoring", you will find they also serve the purpose of bringing you closer and keeping you there, you become a sort of magical trinket. I'm kind of tired already, but trying to explain -
every "law" or "belief" or claim about herself and her actions must superficially be agreeable to her conception of herself as an attractive person (or more precisely, someone with the expectation that they will be attended to - abandonment is a central deep, deep fear), but fundamentally this person is disordered and they have no stable arrangement of guiding principles. All of their actions will serve to comfort this pain and the fear of this pain I mentioned above. If you're an ex or bf, this manifests in push/pull bs (very typical and well known) but there are all sorts of little games and manipulative tactics that are going on at all times that I can't categorize into a neat package. You just have to know that BPD people, especially the smart ones, if you're someone of (Attentive) Energy/Emotion, will give you absolute hell any way they can. She's doing it to me 5 years later. I expect this sentence to sound insane or unreasonable on its own.
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:16 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
You are on to something. I would take, for example, the phrase, "you are fascinating." Despite appearances, it is, ultimately, a patronizing and belittling thing to say. It is, at the same time, a highly effective means of extracting another person's life blood while keeping one's own life energy behind a barrier ("i'm just *intellectually* interested").
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:21 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
yeah well said
she is actually aware of this on a conscious level and many, many of her manipulative tactics are done deliberately rather than just from some instinct for how you should act with someone to attract them. she proudly reposts an essay describing some of her methods here and on reddit etc. of course these people are also taken for a ride themselves by the people they trap (the "NPD/BPD" mutual destruction/insanity)
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:32 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
this is something that's been known throughout all of recorded history. which is why it's especially pathetic to see a guy go mental over it. most dudes learn pretty quickly to just go "oh lol" and move on.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:36 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
that is ideal, yeah. often the inability to do that is based on some projective content, where the man perceives the woman as some source of spiritual healing or nourishment in their lives, and dont want to do the difficult work of finding what helps them with that in themsevles.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:40 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
You don't know anything about who I am or what my life has been. You're a simpleton, and you've reduced something obviously very complex (have you ever seen such a thing on the board, in its entire history?) to a vaguely accurate trope, for a few parallels you can draw. There's a destructive woman, there's a powerful emotional draw. You don't know anything about the structure of the problem but its most obvious features.
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:25 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
I can't answer this question without potentially triggering her. You are fucking stupid for not seeing that. You really are at all times arguing from a really stubborn position - because you only see the parts of Box that are human. this is a paper machete sculpture she's been crafting for literally decades.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
he is a pretty good poaster when he's not triggered by the box. even during these periods of psychosis he has periods of lucidity where he seems normal.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
for the billionth time that has nothing to do with box and everything to do with you. you're the one being a dramatic queer and threatening to out people and filling up the whole bort with your psychopathy. even if the box was everything you say she is that doesn't excuse YOUR behavior.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:33 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
not enough to know whatever you're going to reference. i've been here before you and tbtp but never got enmeshed into bort personalities and drama until covid.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
It's hard to understand without really investing a lot of time, even if you go searching and clicking through threads.
I have a script that reproduces the front page of this site as it was at any given instant in its history. I'm going to show a judge what it looked like over the course of several months and years, and the kind of content that was directed at me privately.
I came in hot for a very good reason, in a way that has nothing to do with the Box (except for the role she played in making it come to be).
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:41 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
you're delusional brother. none of that is every going to happen. if you think box is coming here to fuck with you than why not get up and walk away? or develop to emotional and mental fortitude to deal with it?
like i've said, i have no doubt you went through some very real trauma with your break up and understand how seeing her can make you emotional. that doesn't excuse your behavior. you're responsible for how you react.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:48 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
There's "trauma" from a relationship. There's also a bunch of other things about my life that I don't feel at liberty to discuss with a disingenuous fuckbag who is only pretending to care about me (a disgusting, womanly affect). And more importantly next to my BPD ex.
Date: March 17th, 2022 8:58 PM Author: splenetic market brethren
I for one would be interested to understand the facts you have gathered from the board and the way they are correlated with the private communications.
fwiw, i wasn't on the bort at all in the time period he's mentioned when he was active and believes i and 30 other poasters worked together behind the scenes to chase him off the board.
before september 2021, i:
1) had no idea he had ever poasted (he lurked but said he would never sign up bc it'd have to be an edu address); and
2) had never heard of the poaster arkan/clean white glory/whatever
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:37 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
in this most recent clusterfuck of dramatic events, you have been coordinating with all of the same people. it's not a coincidence. and it's not a coincidence nobody has had the courage to approach me about what happened. they were protecting you, because they didn't realize what you were doing.
i agree [re PTSD], and i would love to see you heal.
i've apologized a billion times for how crazy i was back then. i am profoundly sorry to have hurt and traumatized you. i understand that you are wounded but i KNOW you have it in you to move on and live your best life. and eventually you'll find someone who will be amazing to you and for you.
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:31 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
for the audience:
she probably didnt even read the whole post. she saw "PTSD" and jumped on it because that has specific cultural meaning that makes it useful as a tool in her self-stories (using the language of a post above) that she also feeds to other people like every simp. ie we have a sane guy who was subject to deranged BPD manipulation and he acts deranged. she will tell you he's just innately deranged and you will believe her because she has collected all these little tools expressly for this purpose, because she always has this problem and the story always needs tweaking and adjusting
there is absolutely no genuine concern or interest in you as a mind, you are simply a prop (even or rather especially people they are actively "obsessed" with). "drama" involving a bpd person is always really just a doll show, every single participant is a doll.
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:23 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
elaborating on the "crazy texts"
when we broke up i realized i have to lie to her about the relationship being over and to stop seeing her, stop texting her, stop sending her pictures, stop talking to her on the phone, etc and i guess in weakness instead i replaced all of this with an onslaught of retarded meme shit to fill the void left by all the things i had to remove from our relationship (which was now being dismantled like a bomb)
Date: March 17th, 2022 9:35 PM Author: Pontificating pale native
what does that mean?
this is all happening on a very abstract level, as in the process and the goals are all abstract. normally when people say "simp" what you have is some material goal (fucking) approached in a retarded/simplistic way (copping a whore) and this fucked up mental process thats gets layered on top post-hoc is the simpery.
what i have is an emotional frame that was beat into me via BPD dynamics of a real relationship that i had basically just fallen into out of genuine naivete. eg a big theme is becoming a sort of savior/martyr which is very simp-like but it appears only by way of actual chaos/abuse that you are forced to adapt to. do you think that distinction is real?