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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:17 PM Author: ruddy therapy https://twitter.com/LOTRonPrime/status/1567640086954790912 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133549) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:39 AM Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (MOTORING!!!) https://imgur.com/dUyS2I1 (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135795) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:44 AM Author: mind-boggling liquid oxygen church building ghastly (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135810) |
Date: September 7th, 2022 8:18 PM Author: metaphysics Is gay Lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133552) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:18 PM Author: Olive stage They had all that money, and this is what they produce. Nobody associated with this product should ever work in entertainment again. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133554) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:19 PM Author: metaphysics Is gay Is it as bad as when they killed James bond (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133561) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:12 AM Author: big national depressive Please mark spoilers (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135600) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:21 PM Author: Zombie-like box office haunted graveyard (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133567) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:12 AM Author: big national depressive You know NOTHING about the entertainment industry, champ (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135602) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:45 AM Author: razzmatazz bipolar theatre giraffe (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135665) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:20 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/rings-of-power-reviews-delayed-amazon-prime-video-1235358724/
compare rt score to user score: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_rings_of_power (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133563) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:21 PM Author: Olive stage (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133568) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: Ivory Hominid Shrine lmao (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133590) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: Primrose Seedy Striped Hyena Pisswyrm (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133627) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:21 PM Author: vigorous navy trust fund This was directed at xo, btw (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133569) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:22 PM Author: Zombie-like box office haunted graveyard gay huge Tolkien fan and I won't watch a minute of this (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133573) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:26 PM Author: Ivory Hominid Shrine (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133591) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:29 PM Author: Arousing institution new version Just act out the silmarillion with your bros (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133615) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:10 AM Author: copper azn Amazon doesn’t have Silmarillion rights. None of what happens in the show is specifically from any text apart from some of the lotr appendices. It’s filling in big gaps of the mid second age that isn’t really covered anywhere in amy of Tolkien’s canon. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135916) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133631) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: submissive histrionic menage Ok buddy (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133659) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:43 PM Author: Zombie-like box office haunted graveyard I won't, why is this hard to believe (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133708) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:21 PM Author: french property (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134213) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:25 PM Author: fiercely-loyal fuchsia station partner OH LAWD (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133588) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:28 PM Author: Arousing institution new version Star Wars tripping over themselves to remind you they're woke too
(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133611) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: Slap-happy tattoo Lmao (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133622) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: Primrose Seedy Striped Hyena Pisswyrm (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133626) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 6:59 AM Author: umber queen of the night address “we’ll stand in solidarity against the last shred of European folklore - and we’ll never go broke lmao we can do this at a loss forever” (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135584) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:32 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) and you're sure alienating most of the fans for woke shit no one asked for will help us sell more bezos prime memberships? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133638) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:47 PM Author: Pumonymous burgers? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134357) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:34 PM Author: Lavender impertinent crackhouse Huge fan of LOTR. Would have ben mega-excited for this.
Will NEVER watch it.
Will NEVER pay a single cent to see anything else LOTR / Tolkein related.
(Still going to use Amazon though) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133647) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:35 PM Author: Excitant clown den You're part of the problem (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133652) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:36 PM Author: Lavender impertinent crackhouse How about I continue using Amazon, but I scam them with fake returns so much that they LOSE money off of me? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133655) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:37 PM Author: Excitant clown den Ok that's better thank you for your service (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133658) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:41 PM Author: Lavender impertinent crackhouse your welc (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133687) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:38 PM Author: submissive histrionic menage LOL keep sending money to the people you hate (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133667) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 8:38 PM Author: Zombie-like box office haunted graveyard I might watch an animated movie / show if it didn't have any of this bs in it (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45133669) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:05 PM Author: 180 erotic heaven multi-billionaire The Wire had gay Omar. Kima was a lesbian.
Game of Thrones had bisexual Oberyn.
Star Wars had tons of minorities - Lando, the cast of Rogue One, like half the cast of Obi-Wan
Lord of the Rings had powerful women doing cool shit.
But viewers just know forced woke bullshit when they see it. Reva on Obi Wan was horrible. I'm sure this Ring of Power shit is horrible.
Stop hiding behind "viewers are bigots" - you were so focused on diversity that you didn't bother crafting a character behind the gay trans person. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134123) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 6:39 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) i was ranting in my head about this last night
i really resent all the "STFU YOU BIGOT" shit. all of these media franchises have had minorities and women doing shit. it's like everyone criticizing she-hulk twerking must be some bigot when decades before the mcu marvel was doing progressive thigs. shit the entire x-men is a thinly veiled allegory about racism and discrimination. and i was a ultra fanboy. same thing with all the other shit you mentioned.
empire came out in 1980, ostensibly when libs believe in was still super duper ultra raycis for blacks, and i don't remember anyone complaining about lando. because lando wasn't some token forced woke bullshit character. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135557) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 6:42 AM Author: razzmatazz bipolar theatre giraffe (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135565) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:44 AM Author: supple stead mood Cr the show just sucks and the diversity feels forced and political. If a show is good and there happens to be diversity no one cares. But when it sucks and seems to only exist as a platform to forcememe diversity then there’s a backlash. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135663) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:29 AM Author: Big-titted razzle home boltzmann With Reva and Lady dwarf it feels like they went out of their to cast people who remind you of your most annoying co-workers (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135772) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:43 AM Author: mind-boggling liquid oxygen church building cr Deadwood had chinks, niggers, and faggotry and it was the best show of all time. It's not diversity per se that's the problem, it's the ham-handed brute force shitmemeing I take issue with (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135809) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:44 AM Author: blue glittery stock car And Deadwood was more respectful and humanizing toward those minorities and while addressing them as chinks, niggers, hoopleheads, celestials, etc (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135812) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:45 AM Author: mind-boggling liquid oxygen church building dirt-worshipping heathens (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135819) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:47 AM Author: fiercely-loyal fuchsia station partner Don’t forget Renly’s gay sex scenes in GOT (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136022) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:06 PM Author: scarlet circlehead locale (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134128) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 11:04 PM Author: mahogany feces office (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134504) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:08 PM Author: lex "Middle earth has never been all white" Right, weren't there those black savages that serve evil? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134143) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:44 PM Author: Ivory Hominid Shrine tbpf [edit: sam, not frodo] wonders what a fallen haradrim had been told to cause him to march so far from home and die in the wilderness (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134344) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:06 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135594) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 10:56 PM Author: 180 erotic heaven multi-billionaire Another issue is that aesthetically, it was better to have each race in LOTR look similar. The elves were slender, the dwarves were stout, the men looked like english dudes, etc.
The same way Black Panther is a great movie because you feel like you are in a real place when you watch those scenes. The scenes in Black Panther would not have worked if half of the people in Wakanda looked and acted like Ron DeSantis. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134435) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:06 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135593) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:16 AM Author: submissive histrionic menage Black Panther sucked tbf and even that movie had two lead white characters which is about the same number of blacks on that LOTR show (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135608) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:24 AM Author: Rough-skinned Glassy Base Factory Reset Button Better question is how a roving tribe of hobbits were black, white, Hispanic, etc. how does a tribe of a single group have multiple races in it (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135628) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 7:32 AM Author: submissive histrionic menage Isn't this show supposed to be thousands of years before LOTR? Supposedly Tolkien said the Harfoots were darker people than Hobbits (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135644) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:50 AM Author: Rough-skinned Glassy Base Factory Reset Button Yeah, but their tribe is not just dark people. It's literally a white dude w blond hair blue eyes married to a black girl, black family, white family, etc. How does that work if they're all intermarrying for hundreds of years?
Look at this:
(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135838) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:21 AM Author: copper azn Hobbits at all in the 2nd age is highly questionable. What they would have looked like is up for grabs. My take on the casting is that we’re supposed to look past the race of the individual actors. Kinda like casting Denzel as Macbeth (or Anthony Hopkins as Othello). I don’t think the skin color of the actors is meant to indicate anything substantive about the characters. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135948) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:36 AM Author: Boyish maize state They're darker in the sense that Italians are darker than Scottish people, not short little bantu blacks (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135996) |
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Date: September 7th, 2022 11:07 PM Author: purple community account abode Lol @ these schizos (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45134528) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 8:54 AM Author: Exhilarant stag film foreskin On that shitty soap opera intro thing that was making the rounds it looks like over half the cast is female. Not asking for an all male cast, but enough already with the kick ass womyn. I get it, it is "fantasy" but does every show have to have some 90 pound woman kicking everyone's ass? Have a powerful woman if you want, but her power should come from her sexual hold over men-- like in real life. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135846) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:15 AM Author: copper azn The kick ass female character here is Galadriel. Given that she’s an Elf from the age of the trees, her physical abilities make much more sense than some human woman who is meant to be able to take down men twice her size. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135930) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:22 AM Author: dashing clear native The only "white" male protagonist is playing Elrond, actor was born in England, but he's of Spanish descent. The rest of the white male actors are playing the equivalent of Nazis/white supremacists. The rest of the protagonists/good guys are women or POCs.
The problem isn't the promotion of women and POCs, it's the attack on white males. Libs have gone too far. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135949) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:31 AM Author: copper azn What characters are the Nazi equivalents? Gil-Galad is arguably the biggest hero of the 2nd age. Celebrimbor is a tragic character. The Dwarves seem pretty cool; not getting any facist vibes from Durin. The Southrons are still half-corrupted from the first age so maybe some of those dudes? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45135983) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:41 AM Author: Boyish maize state Why do all the dwarf men look like actual dwarves, but the black dwarf woman just looks like a fat american black woman? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136006) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:49 AM Author: copper azn Well, could be a a few different reasons. See my poast above about the casting and ethnicity/appearance of individual actors not meant to have substantive meaning for their characters. Or, could be that Dwarf women are never fully described by Tolkien and they’re all darker skinned. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136029) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:51 AM Author: Boyish maize state yeah that must be it. No other reason. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136034) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:53 AM Author: copper azn If you’re asking why would they cast a black actor to play a dwarf then that’s a different topic. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136042) |
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Date: September 8th, 2022 9:57 AM Author: Boyish maize state AH LAWD! LAWD DEM RANGZ! AHHHH LAWDY! RANGZ OF POWAH! I FINNA GET ME DEM RANGZ!!! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5187609&forum_id=2#45136066) |