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NYT challenges Coulters Law with latest mass shooting
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Date: October 14th, 2022 7:43 AM Author: thriller parlour Lol I only made it to the first sentence before realizing it was poast-worthy.
RALEIGH, N.C. — A white male teenager fatally shot five people, including an off-duty police officer, in Raleigh, N.C., on Thursday, the authorities said.
As dawn neared on Friday, they had not disclosed the gunman’s age or a possible motive, among other details. But it was clear that the violence had stunned a middle-class area in one of America’s fastest-growing cities.
Suddenly, those vinyl-sided homes, tidy lawns and yellowing oak tree canopies felt a lot less secure.
“I can’t believe this is happening in my neighborhood,” Cheryl St. James, a nurse, said late Thursday as she inched her car through traffic caused by a crush of police and emergency vehicles. “It’s scary.” Yet at this stage of America’s numbing epidemic of gun violence — in a rich country where school children participate in “mass casualty” simulations — such episodes are no longer all that surprising.
Another young man stalking civilians with a powerful weapon. Another quiet American neighborhood forced to digest the incomprehensible.
Dig deeper into the moment. Special offer: Subscribe for $1 a week. “Tonight, terror has reached our doorstep,” Gov. Roy Cooper said at a news conference just before 11 p.m. at the Raleigh Municipal Building. “The nightmare of every community has come to Raleigh. This is a senseless, horrific and infuriating act of violence.”
Gun Violence in America 2022 Mass Shootings: Gun violence is a persistent American problem. A partial list of mass shootings this year offers a glimpse at the scope. N.Y. Gun Law: Between a court challenge and the hostility of many sheriffs, New York’s effort to provide a model for new concealed-carry legislation after the Supreme Court struck down a stricter law could be teetering. Gun Deaths Rise: Homicides and suicides involving guns, which soared in 2020, the first year of the pandemic, continued rising in 2021, reaching the highest rates in three decades, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. A City Awash in Guns: Alarms have sounded about gun violence across the country over the past two years, but Philadelphia is one of the few major American cities where it truly is as bad as it has ever been. A day earlier, terror had struck six states away in Bristol, Conn., when two police officers were killed and a third was wounded in what the authorities described as an apparent ambush by a 35-year-old gunman who was killed at the scene.
The death toll in Raleigh on Thursday made the shooting the deadliest of 17 shootings in North Carolina so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive. Two others were wounded: a police officer who was released from the hospital and another person who remained in critical condition, the authorities said. None of the victims had been identified as of Friday morning.
The shooting was the latest instance of gun violence by a young man in the United States. So far, the year’s most notorious episode was in Uvalde, Texas, where an 18-year-old gunman killed 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school.
In July, a 20-year-old gunman killed three people and wounded two others at a mall food court in Indiana — less than two weeks after a 21-year-old gunman killed seven and wounded dozens more during a Fourth of July parade in a Chicago suburb.
Raleigh’s mayor, Mary-Ann Baldwin, appeared emotional as she tallied up the casualties at a news conference on Thursday. Hours later, she appealed to people beyond the city’s limits.
“We have to end this mindless gun violence that is happening in our country,” Ms. Baldwin said, adding that there are “too many victims.”
“We have to wake up,” she said. “I don’t want other mayors standing here at the podium with their hearts breaking because people in their community died.”
The shooting occurred in the Hedingham neighborhood in the northeast of Raleigh, where single-family homes and golf courses sit near the Neuse River Greenway, a bike and walking trail that winds through wetlands and pine groves. Residents said they heard police sirens about 4 p.m., about two hours before the police asked them to remain in their homes. By 9:37 p.m., the siege was over, and the suspect was in custody, the police said. But there were so many emergency vehicles in the area that some residents were ensnared by traffic on their way home. Hedingham Neuse River 3 mi.5 km. North Carolina By The New York Times On Eagle Trace Drive, about a mile and a half from where the shooting occurred, sirens could be heard wailing in the distance as cars inched forward and police vehicles with flashing lights nosed through.
Ethan Garner, a project manager who has lived in the area for three years, said that he had left to get something to eat in the early evening. Hours later, he was sitting in his car, watching television on his phone as police officers attended to the crime scene.
“I leave my doors unlocked,” he said. “Yeah, I have cameras, but I never worry about anything like that. Nothing’s ever happened.” Recent Shootings
A Partial List of Mass Shootings in the United States in 2022 McKenna Oxenden is a breaking news reporter and a member of the 2022-2023 New York Times fellowship class. @mack_oxenden
A version of this article appears in print on Oct. 14, 2022, Section A, Page 12 of the New York edition with the headline: Gunman Kills at Least 5 In a Raleigh Neighborhood. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe Give this article Read in app
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Date: October 14th, 2022 7:44 AM Author: Mint Parlor Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329585) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 7:51 AM Author: Ruby meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329591) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:04 AM Author: Ultramarine water buffalo What race was the perpetrator of the Raleigh shooting? That important detail seems to be missing from the article. It should be stated up front, in the first sentence. Did I miss it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329601) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:05 AM Author: submissive theatre hairy legs Challenged? Doesn't this confirm Coulter's Law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329603) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:06 AM Author: Bronze galvanic stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329605) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:06 AM Author: Bronze galvanic stag film I'm not seeing it bruv. Lmao I think they changed it. The NYT commentariat has been pushing back on some of the shitlibbery lately and I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed back on this if comments were on.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/us/raleigh-shooting.html |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:19 AM Author: Ultramarine water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329619) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:44 AM Author: thriller parlour Lol no fucking way. I should have archived this. I 100% promise you it was there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329661) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:46 AM Author: thriller parlour Here is an archive from 5 hours ago, in which the opening sentence doesn’t list him as white, but the byline still mentions it, as well as the second sentence.
Well fuck me. Lesson learned. I usually archive these and post the archived link so it doesn’t drive views, but I was being lazy this morning. Fucking NYT cunts |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:54 AM Author: thriller parlour Here is the best I can do to prove it. The NYT changed the article, but Google still has a cached version of the page which appears as text in the search results.
https://archive.ph/UuDA1 |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: Bronze galvanic stag film Holy fucking shit. Fuck these kikes for not even mentioning the change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329690) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:02 AM Author: thriller parlour Their most zealous morning readers got the right “taste,” and now they have a good clean article for any of their critics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329699) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 8:17 AM Author: domesticated cerise skinny woman psychic http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3893816&mc=22&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329617) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:05 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested Check out this bot account that shows changes in NYT headlines, etc. -- shows "identified as white" deleted and replaced with no identified race after perp is taken into custody:
Twitter link: https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1580731200833888256 Mirror, no ads/sign-in BS: https://nitter.net/nyt_diff/status/1580731200833888256 |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:13 AM Author: thriller parlour My god. And it missed the particular version that triggered me. Imagine how many and the regularity of the edits an article like this must have if the bot finds a dozen and various archives can show even more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329723) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 12:59 PM Author: naked filthy house boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45330954) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: Bronze galvanic stag film "They got rid of the word "white" because "in custody" makes it redundant" [i.e. black would be det] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331906) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:09 AM Author: chartreuse resort So was he white or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329712) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:11 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested See above: NYT at first stated he was "identified as white," then edited when he was taken into custody to remove reference to race.
So, I guess it will always be a mystery. Impossible to know now that he is in custody. |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:13 AM Author: chartreuse resort I mean we should know if/when he gets arraigned or whatever right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329721) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:15 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested No, his race is an unknowable mystery now that we have him in custody. He's just an angry "gun-wielding" "teen," probably a "mass shooter" [links to several examples of white shooters]. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329732) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:18 AM Author: thriller parlour You joke, but that’s exactly what they did. This is the shooting they made a direct reference to: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/nyregion/bristol-connecticut-shooting.html |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:19 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested TY. I knew as much from a glance. Once you know their tricks, there's no need to read the articles in depth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329744) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:15 AM Author: thriller parlour No, they first edited it to the version I posted in the OP, stating unequivocally that he was a white male. Then they removed racial references (I imagine after pushback, not for accuracy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329729) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:16 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested My guess is they got an initial tip/made one up he was white, then it was disconfirmed so they scrubbed race; but who knows.
https://nitter.net/nyt_diff/status/1580843441788833792#m |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:19 AM Author: thriller parlour I saw that from your link above. But Google still has a cached version of the article (for search results) in which they were unequivocal
https://archive.ph/UuDA1 |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:20 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested Ha!
Nice work. Someone should send this thread with images to Steve Sailer, or something. |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:28 AM Author: thriller parlour I archived the two sites that took the NYT article verbatim when it was published like my OP. I’m pissed the NYT tried to pull a fast one on us.
https://archive.ph/BiWrN |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:30 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested Good man! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329797) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 10:02 AM Author: thriller parlour Another hint: WaPo has no qualms whatsoever about calling the shooter a “white male.” I’m guessing someone whispered in a NYT editor’s ear about Coulters Law and he/she/they/xher/it got embarrassed and called for the change.
https://archive.ph/QZ20x |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:20 AM Author: Arousing Gaming Laptop It'll be a real A/B test case if the shooter is non-white and the NYT doesn't mention that fact.
NYT editor to reporter: "We can say 'white' here." |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:30 AM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329798) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 9:34 AM Author: chartreuse resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45329824) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:56 PM Author: Shivering tanning salon He’s white. Daily Mail posted a picture of him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331921) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 11:03 AM Author: Razzmatazz theater shitlib Police: 5 killed, including officer, in N. Carolina shooting By HANNAH SCHOENBAUM and STEFANIE DAZIO
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Five people were killed by a shooter who opened fire along a walking trail in North Carolina’s capital city on Thursday and eluded officers for hours before he was cornered in a home and arrested, police said.
An off-duty police officer was among those killed by the suspect, who police only described as a white, juvenile male. He was arrested around 9:37 p.m., authorities said. His identity and age weren’t released.
The gunfire broke out around 5 p.m. along the Neuse River Greenway in a residential area northeast of downtown, Raleigh Mayor Mary-Ann Baldwin said. Officers from numerous law enforcement agencies swarmed the area, closing roads and warning residents to stay inside while they searched for the shooter.
Two people, including another police officer, were taken to hospitals. The officer was later released, but the other survivor remained in critical condition.
“Tonight, terror has reached our doorstep. The nightmare of every community has come to Raleigh. This is a senseless horrific and infuriating act of violence that has been committed,” Gov. Roy Cooper told reporters.
Authorities didn’t offer any details on a motive, but Baldwin joined Cooper in decrying the violence.
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-north-carolina-raleigh-168acb4bc412772ea006326c6a234bfa |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 11:26 AM Author: Ultramarine water buffalo Roy is a trusted leader, a family man, and a North Carolinian through and through. He's the kind of common sense leader families can count on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45330441) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 1:44 PM Author: Arousing Gaming Laptop i don't know if you're doing a reverse willy or not, but it is worth mentioning that Roy Cooper was one of the few, true heroes in the Duke lax case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331193) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:30 PM Author: thriller parlour Can you give us a quick rundown? A Google search only reveals that ultimately he dismissed the case; I didn’t see any other details. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331731) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 12:52 PM Author: Violent Address lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45330903) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: aphrodisiac area friendly grandma ljl, it's actually necessary because everyone knows "teenager" means black, so you need the modifier if the kid isn't black. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331844) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:51 PM Author: mischievous zombie-like electric furnace idea he suggested Nice law of unintended consequences example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331876) |
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Date: October 14th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: Bronze galvanic stag film Cr cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5212040&forum_id=2#45331911) |