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Must I Mentor a White Law Student When I Requested a Black Mentee? (NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/29/magazine/law-school-mento...
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Yellow abode associate
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I suppose it would suck to mentor someone more intelligent
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imagine being this white law student chick and having to &ld...
Chest-beating halford
  12/07/22
Good training for what's to come.
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exciting plum crotch
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excluding the racial element, it's really good training for ...
primrose impressive toaster feces
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I STILL expect these to be flame threads. When will I learn?
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You know, we used to live in a society where blacks had thei...
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white law student's thought when she saw her mentor: "...
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swollen private investor
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i mean, good for the letter-writer to acknowledge the moral ...
Clear Histrionic Quadroon
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Yea. Cringe at it bitch. Cringe at that shit. cringe hard. C...
Fighting heady jap
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Can you imagine the NYT publishing a white lawyer who only w...
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“There are so many factors in her favor that I don&rsq...
Umber motley persian
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“Black attorneys… continue to face horrific exp...
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tbf, getting a second jd does sound horrible.
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I would love to know what she means by this. I can't think ...
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it’s all so tiring
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orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard
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Just give them FL AL GA MS and LA and let’s be done wi...
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Fuck you, that's some of the best land in the country. Send ...
exciting plum crotch
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Sinister passionate queen of the night sneaky criminal
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yeah, no blacks there
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Sinister passionate queen of the night sneaky criminal
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only a matter of time https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...
orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard
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Wtf no, we're keeping Florida
razzle-dazzle public bath
  12/07/22
fine, swap SC for FL.
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how are the comments?
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confronted with the question about transracial mentorship ...
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EPAH donated 100k to the law school formally known as Hastin...
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When did "mentee" replace "protege"? It...
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It sounds like manatee.
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I'm a manatee https://youtu.be/tM_lrK4upvw
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mentat/mentee
pearl digit ratio
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Guys I'm starting to dislike niggers
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To be fair, A brainwashed woke liberal white woman who ha...
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tbf defending the african race for once? 180 but isn't ev...
Yellow abode associate
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To be fair, I didn't read the article but based on my car...
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the first line of the article here is 'i am a black woman'. ...
Yellow abode associate
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To be fair, Oh OK sorry I didn't read this NYT article ...
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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:06 AM
Author: beta church

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/29/magazine/law-school-mentoring-race-ethics.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598227)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: Yellow abode associate

https://archive.ph/C8JDE

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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:13 AM
Author: Chest-beating halford

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598273)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:36 PM
Author: transparent wonderful box office nibblets



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:14 AM
Author: dashing mood



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:17 AM
Author: Floppy roommate locus

I suppose it would suck to mentor someone more intelligent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598297)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:18 AM
Author: Chest-beating halford

imagine being this white law student chick and having to “get coffee” with some black cunt alum who not-so-subtly despises you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598307)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:20 AM
Author: swollen private investor

Good training for what's to come.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598319)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:22 AM
Author: Chest-beating halford



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:24 AM
Author: orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: Umber motley persian



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Brass stimulating ticket booth



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: exciting plum crotch



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:33 AM
Author: Misunderstood Onyx Mental Disorder



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:45 AM
Author: Chrome big locale useless brakes



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:53 AM
Author: lascivious theater stage



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:38 PM
Author: Naked hideous roast beef



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:39 PM
Author: startled frozen set



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:49 PM
Author: soul-stirring pale shrine



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:51 PM
Author: titillating house-broken plaza gay wizard



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:20 PM
Author: boyish marketing idea



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:21 AM
Author: Arousing Spruce Brunch

imagine how "chill" it would be to be some white law student who gets assigned a black "mentor" who is 15 IQ dumber than you and openly hates you

The Majesty Of The Law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598327)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:23 AM
Author: Yellow abode associate



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: exciting plum crotch



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:30 AM
Author: primrose impressive toaster feces

excluding the racial element, it's really good training for what life will be like as an associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598392)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:23 AM
Author: mint boistinker reading party

I STILL expect these to be flame threads. When will I learn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598340)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:25 AM
Author: exciting plum crotch

You know, we used to live in a society where blacks had their own public life and this kind of thing wasn't a problem. I wonder why that changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598354)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:26 AM
Author: hairraiser claret nursing home philosopher-king

white law student's thought when she saw her mentor: "oh, goddamn it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598357)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: swollen private investor



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Clear Histrionic Quadroon

i mean, good for the letter-writer to acknowledge the moral question and ask an authority (who largely gets the answer right). but i admit, i did cringe at the part of the letter where she wonders whether assisting this student "would be ultimately contributing to my own oppression"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598360)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:56 PM
Author: Fighting heady jap

Yea. Cringe at it bitch. Cringe at that shit. cringe hard. Cringe DEEP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599763)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:27 AM
Author: Pink bespoke gaming laptop coldplay fan

Can you imagine the NYT publishing a white lawyer who only wanted to mentor another white person and got stuck with a black student? Something tells me the reaction would be a tad different

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598365)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:28 AM
Author: Umber motley persian

“There are so many factors in her favor that I don’t really want to help give her even more of a leg up in my free time.”

i’ve got some good news for the correspondent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598374)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:29 AM
Author: Brass stimulating ticket booth

“Black attorneys… continue to face horrific experiences in law school”

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598384)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: Umber motley persian

tbf, getting a second jd does sound horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598404)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:33 AM
Author: mildly autistic comical incel



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:45 AM
Author: turquoise corn cake space



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:47 AM
Author: Chrome big locale useless brakes



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:13 PM
Author: Smoky Excitant Church Building Death Wish



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:15 PM
Author: startled frozen set



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:37 AM
Author: swollen private investor



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:16 PM
Author: startled frozen set

I would love to know what she means by this. I can't think of a hotter commodity on the job market than a black JD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599888)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:08 PM
Author: disturbing station



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:34 AM
Author: Misunderstood Onyx Mental Disorder

it’s all so tiring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598414)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:41 AM
Author: orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:44 AM
Author: pearl digit ratio

Just give them FL AL GA MS and LA and let’s be done with it. I’d have to move, would suck but we’d be done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598457)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:46 AM
Author: exciting plum crotch

Fuck you, that's some of the best land in the country. Send them north and let libs live among their political pets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598468)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:51 AM
Author: Sinister passionate queen of the night sneaky criminal



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:52 AM
Author: orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard

yeah, no blacks there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598492)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:54 AM
Author: Sinister passionate queen of the night sneaky criminal



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Date: December 7th, 2022 11:12 AM
Author: orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard

only a matter of time

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-africa-analysis/africas-population-boom-fuels-unstoppable-migration-to-europe-idUSKCN12D1PN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598571)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle public bath

Wtf no, we're keeping Florida

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598510)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: pearl digit ratio

fine, swap SC for FL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599451)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 10:57 AM
Author: turquoise corn cake space

how are the comments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45598513)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:39 PM
Author: dark autistic resort mediation

N

Note

Metro Philadelphia

Dec. 3

I read and understood the situation outlined by LW1 as well as the advice given. But I'm left with the queasy feeling that a white mentor trying to walk away from a program because they didn't get a white mentee would have resulted in a vastly different conversation.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599390)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:40 PM
Author: dark autistic resort mediation

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MiamiHeatFan

Florida

Nov. 29

LW1 would be doing the mentee a favor to decline. I was once assigned a mentor who told me she didn't want to do it, then detailed the inherent privileges I had that weren't available to her. I informally sought out another mentor, and learned a lot. After my tryout period my mentor advised against hiring me, saying I lacked empathy. My informal mentor intervened and I got the job. LW1 would be a bad mentor. That's reason enough to decline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599394)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:40 PM
Author: dark autistic resort mediation

Adam Gussow

Oxford, MS

Nov. 29

I'm cheered by the fact that Prof. Appiah, confronted with the question about transracial mentorship, managed to address it with exquisite tact, thoughtfulness, and equanimity. Another reader, equally determined to clarify the would-be mentor's ethical concerns but less inclined to make nice, might have pointed out that her claim about her would-be mentee, "I don't have anything against her," is flatly contracted by most of the rest of her letter, in which she makes clear that she does indeed hold that would-be mentee's race--her whiteness--against her. There's a word for those who negatively prejudge others in this way, on the basis of race. It's not a nice word. The irony here, as Prof. Appiah wisely notes, is that the would-be mentee, a white woman, may well have asked to be paired with a Black female mentor--concerned with social justice as so many younger white people have become these days. That white would-be mentee might even have been required to submit a diversity statement in her law school application, testifying to her anti-racist bona fides and her yearning to work with and learn from Black elders in the field. Viewed in this context, her would-be Black mentor's a priori, race-based resistance to working with her isn't just problematic on a purely human level, but it's at odds with the just, equitable, and inclusive world that contemporary DEI ideology is seeking to bring into being.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599397)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:51 PM
Author: soul-stirring pale shrine

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

confronted with the question about transracial mentorship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599747)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:37 PM
Author: Thriller Twinkling Uncleanness

EPAH donated 100k to the law school formally known as Hastings on the condition he received two (2) WOC mentees per academic year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599383)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:39 PM
Author: brilliant cracking rigpig site

When did "mentee" replace "protege"? It's a lot clunkier sounding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599391)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:41 PM
Author: swollen private investor

It sounds like manatee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599400)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:46 PM
Author: orchid high-end son of senegal haunted graveyard

I'm a manatee

https://youtu.be/tM_lrK4upvw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599420)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 1:54 PM
Author: pearl digit ratio

mentat/mentee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599454)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:16 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone hall

Guys I'm starting to dislike niggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599577)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 2:59 PM
Author: Glassy beady-eyed pisswyrm boiling water

To be fair,

A brainwashed woke liberal white woman who has been actively trained to hate her own race and worship niggers by Jews, writing into a woke liberal Jewish newspaper to complain about fellow white people (because they are white), somehow makes you hate... black people? That's all somehow the fault of nigs?

Settle down, Avi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599771)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 3:16 PM
Author: Yellow abode associate

tbf defending the african race for once? 180

but isn't everyone involved here black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45599892)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 4:58 PM
Author: Glassy beady-eyed pisswyrm boiling water

To be fair,

I didn't read the article but based on my careful review of this thread, it sounds like the only nigger is the "expert ethicist" weighing in to say that this isn't cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45600453)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:06 PM
Author: Yellow abode associate

the first line of the article here is 'i am a black woman'. the advice given is that law school is stressful for everyone regardless of race so she should be nice. lol @ cons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5248881&forum_id=2#45600490)



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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:09 PM
Author: Glassy beady-eyed pisswyrm boiling water

To be fair,

Oh OK sorry I didn't read this NYT article

Back to fuck niggers I guess

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Date: December 7th, 2022 5:13 PM
Author: soul-stirring pale shrine



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