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(((Catholic))) Church now depicting St. Augustine as black

https://twitter.com/USCatholic/status/1652017337183223808
crystalline crotch brethren
  04/30/23
WE
Racy School Cafeteria
  04/30/23
WUZ
high-end party of the first part
  04/30/23
KANGZ
canary trip shrine legal warrant
  04/30/23
I think he was though.
cracking reading party plaza
  04/30/23
(Villanova University professor)
wild black hunting ground piazza
  04/30/23
He was a Berber
lascivious bistre state
  04/30/23
no he wasn't you stupid jew
gaped fragrant police squad
  04/30/23
It's the first line in his wikipedia. Berbers aren't black i...
lascivious bistre state
  04/30/23
Cr This dude is a Berber https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z...
vigorous institution
  04/30/23
looks whiter than an actual frenchman
floppy mediation
  04/30/23
do we think they look the same as 2k years ago? egyptians ha...
Orchid Blood Rage
  04/30/23
they may have changed somewhat in appearance but they're sti...
floppy mediation
  04/30/23
egyptians actually haven't changed that much. got a little b...
blathering comical ticket booth masturbator
  05/01/23
Are you kidding? Absolutely 100% false.
arrogant know-it-all cuckoldry kitchen
  05/01/23
you're an idiot, and what's worse, an arrogant idiot. htt...
blathering comical ticket booth masturbator
  05/02/23
No, modern Egyptians are largely Arab, which is a different ...
vigorous institution
  05/01/23
LOL at the aggressively stupid morons on XO. To start with, ...
blathering comical ticket booth masturbator
  05/02/23
Why are you so emphatically wrong about fucking everything
indigo native
  04/30/23
About spat out my drink
slate brunch
  04/30/23
...
iridescent set juggernaut
  04/30/23
Wasn't his part of africa under roman control?
Big goyim
  04/30/23
Yes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_(Roman_province)
Jet Thriller Sex Offender Hospital
  04/30/23
(Xoxo2023)
smoky bbw garrison
  04/30/23
...
frisky charismatic pit regret
  04/30/23
...
Orchid Blood Rage
  04/30/23
Explain the joke for the non historymos
iridescent set juggernaut
  04/30/23
...
blathering comical ticket booth masturbator
  05/01/23
(Xo 146 BC)
supple point
  04/30/23
The gave him wide ass nostrils lol
purple candlestick maker
  04/30/23
That isn’t from an official Church publication/organiz...
smoky bbw garrison
  04/30/23
this will be in the catechism in 5 years and a papal encycli...
judgmental jet-lagged athletic conference corner
  04/30/23
(guy whose knowledge of the church and the pope does not ext...
smoky bbw garrison
  05/01/23
current POTUS of the church will resign within months so it ...
judgmental jet-lagged athletic conference corner
  05/01/23
North Africans are Black now?
Opaque Indecent Dog Poop
  04/30/23
you're a low IQ retard
gaped fragrant police squad
  04/30/23
Catholics are a plague
gaped fragrant police squad
  04/30/23
Didn't they just do a black cleopatra too?
histrionic crackhouse coldplay fan
  04/30/23
are libs actually this dumb?
vigorous institution
  04/30/23
...
frisky charismatic pit regret
  04/30/23
spaceporn is http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=...
high-end party of the first part
  04/30/23
nigga sippin that mad dog banana red
Silver adulterous jew newt
  04/30/23
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Claret Autistic Heaven
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Excitant offensive temple
  04/30/23
Since his most famous quote is "Lord give me chastity a...
angry spectacular parlour trump supporter
  04/30/23
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Contagious Space Ceo
  04/30/23
If you actually read his autobiography instead of just LARPi...
cracking reading party plaza
  04/30/23
...
razzle-dazzle alpha parlor
  04/30/23
It's been a long time since I read Confessions but I vaguely...
Claret Autistic Heaven
  04/30/23
That is correct. Put his kids up for adoption too I think. O...
cracking reading party plaza
  05/02/23
unlike you, he's able to procreate without the assistance of...
Swashbuckling Genital Piercing
  05/01/23
When was the last time you had sex with a woman though?
cracking reading party plaza
  05/02/23
I don't know why you're being so mean.
angry spectacular parlour trump supporter
  05/02/23
...
Orchid Blood Rage
  04/30/23
For fucking christsake already
heady love of her life
  04/30/23
Low iq pump what is your take
Mildly autistic flickering orchestra pit
  04/30/23
ive seen him depicted as dark skinned before but lol'd hard ...
Cordovan market partner
  04/30/23
they may as well picture him with watermelon and fried chick...
canary trip shrine legal warrant
  04/30/23
...
Cordovan market partner
  04/30/23
...
Mind-boggling Chocolate Shitlib
  05/01/23
WE IS SAINTS
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...
crystalline crotch brethren
  05/01/23
"acknowledge the intellectual and cultural gifts Africa...
Olive Stirring Hell Scourge Upon The Earth
  05/01/23
this publication (despite the official-sounding name) is no...
smoky bbw garrison
  05/01/23
had he been sub-saharan, some note would have been made of t...
Maize Razzle Dysfunction
  05/01/23
North Africans despise niggers. They are going hard after th...
Pearl diverse national security agency
  05/01/23
St Augustine as black qua other/dusky outsider/nontraditiona...
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  05/02/23


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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:04 AM
Author: crystalline crotch brethren

https://twitter.com/USCatholic/status/1652017337183223808

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253245)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:07 AM
Author: Racy School Cafeteria

WE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253248)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:12 AM
Author: high-end party of the first part

WUZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253262)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:25 AM
Author: canary trip shrine legal warrant

KANGZ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253295)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:07 AM
Author: cracking reading party plaza

I think he was though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253250)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:11 AM
Author: wild black hunting ground piazza

(Villanova University professor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253256)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:11 AM
Author: lascivious bistre state

He was a Berber

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253260)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: gaped fragrant police squad

no he wasn't you stupid jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253279)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:22 AM
Author: lascivious bistre state

It's the first line in his wikipedia. Berbers aren't black if you think that's what I'm arguing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253289)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:33 AM
Author: vigorous institution

Cr

This dude is a Berber

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinedine_Zidane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253313)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:51 AM
Author: floppy mediation

looks whiter than an actual frenchman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254164)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:56 AM
Author: Orchid Blood Rage

do we think they look the same as 2k years ago? egyptians have changed a lot, for example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254174)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:07 PM
Author: floppy mediation

they may have changed somewhat in appearance but they're still by and large the same ethnicity unlike egyptians (modern egyptians are arabs, ancient egyptians were copts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254202)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:04 AM
Author: blathering comical ticket booth masturbator

egyptians actually haven't changed that much. got a little blacker but still mostly the same stock as ancient egyptians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256438)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 7:18 PM
Author: arrogant know-it-all cuckoldry kitchen

Are you kidding? Absolutely 100% false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46258888)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 7:41 PM
Author: blathering comical ticket booth masturbator

you're an idiot, and what's worse, an arrogant idiot.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

"o test for genetic differentiation and homogeneity we compared haplogroup composition, calculated FST-statistics28 and applied a test for population continuity29 (Supplementary Table 2, Supplementary Data 3,4) on mitochondrial genome data from the three ancient and two modern-day populations from Egypt and Ethiopia, published by Pagani and colleagues17, including 100 modern Egyptian and 125 modern Ethiopian samples (Fig. 3a). We furthermore included data from the El-Hayez oasis published by Kujanová and colleagues30. We observe highly similar haplogroup profiles between the three ancient groups (Fig. 3a), supported by low FST values (<0.05) and P values >0.1 for the continuity test. Modern Egyptians share this profile but in addition show a marked increase of African mtDNA lineages L0–L4 up to 20% (consistent with nuclear estimates of 80% non-African ancestry reported in Pagani et al.17). Genetic continuity between ancient and modern Egyptians cannot be ruled out by our formal test despite this sub-Saharan African influx, while continuity with modern Ethiopians17, who carry >60% African L lineages"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46263084)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 8:45 PM
Author: vigorous institution

No, modern Egyptians are largely Arab, which is a different ethnicity than ancient Egyptians, who were probably more Semitic in origin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46259236)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 7:41 PM
Author: blathering comical ticket booth masturbator

LOL at the aggressively stupid morons on XO. To start with, Arabs *are* Semitic. Also, just because modern Egyptians are Arab linguistically, does not mean they are Arab genetically. In fact, DNA sequencing of mummies shows genetic continuity between ancient Egyptian populations and modern-day Egyptians. Which is to be expected...the Arabs were an elite ruler class and didn't genocide all the ancient Egyptians, who numbered in the millions at the time of the Arab conquest.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

"Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more ancestry with Near Easterners than present-day Egyptians, who received additional sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times."

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"o test for genetic differentiation and homogeneity we compared haplogroup composition, calculated FST-statistics28 and applied a test for population continuity29 (Supplementary Table 2, Supplementary Data 3,4) on mitochondrial genome data from the three ancient and two modern-day populations from Egypt and Ethiopia, published by Pagani and colleagues17, including 100 modern Egyptian and 125 modern Ethiopian samples (Fig. 3a). We furthermore included data from the El-Hayez oasis published by Kujanová and colleagues30. We observe highly similar haplogroup profiles between the three ancient groups (Fig. 3a), supported by low FST values (<0.05) and P values >0.1 for the continuity test. Modern Egyptians share this profile but in addition show a marked increase of African mtDNA lineages L0–L4 up to 20% (consistent with nuclear estimates of 80% non-African ancestry reported in Pagani et al.17). Genetic continuity between ancient and modern Egyptians cannot be ruled out by our formal test despite this sub-Saharan African influx, while continuity with modern Ethiopians17, who carry >60% African L lineages"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46263081)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 10:42 PM
Author: indigo native

Why are you so emphatically wrong about fucking everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256267)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:09 AM
Author: slate brunch

About spat out my drink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253252)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: iridescent set juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46255951)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:11 AM
Author: Big goyim

Wasn't his part of africa under roman control?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253258)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: Jet Thriller Sex Offender Hospital

Yes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_(Roman_province)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253265)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:17 AM
Author: smoky bbw garrison

(Xoxo2023)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253273)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 1:41 AM
Author: frisky charismatic pit regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253383)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:54 AM
Author: Orchid Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254170)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 9:01 PM
Author: iridescent set juggernaut

Explain the joke for the non historymos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46255952)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:05 AM
Author: blathering comical ticket booth masturbator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256441)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:18 AM
Author: supple point

(Xo 146 BC)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253276)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:14 AM
Author: purple candlestick maker

The gave him wide ass nostrils lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253268)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:15 AM
Author: smoky bbw garrison

That isn’t from an official Church publication/organization. It’s just a random article written by a sociology professor (no history background or religious studies credentials) and her “areas of expertise” include “systemic racism.” St. Augustine’s ethnic background hasn’t been determined for sure afaik. I don’t think anyone has reason to believe his ancestors came from Sub-Saharan Africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253269)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 10:30 PM
Author: judgmental jet-lagged athletic conference corner

this will be in the catechism in 5 years and a papal encyclical in 10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256229)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:03 AM
Author: smoky bbw garrison

(guy whose knowledge of the church and the pope does not extend beyond what he reads on right wing twitter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256433)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 8:48 AM
Author: judgmental jet-lagged athletic conference corner

current POTUS of the church will resign within months so it doesn't matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256826)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: Opaque Indecent Dog Poop

North Africans are Black now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253280)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: gaped fragrant police squad

you're a low IQ retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253284)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: gaped fragrant police squad

Catholics are a plague

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253282)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:20 AM
Author: histrionic crackhouse coldplay fan

Didn't they just do a black cleopatra too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253285)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:30 AM
Author: vigorous institution

are libs actually this dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253306)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 1:41 AM
Author: frisky charismatic pit regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253382)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:46 AM
Author: high-end party of the first part

spaceporn is

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253250

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254154)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:40 AM
Author: Silver adulterous jew newt

nigga sippin that mad dog banana red

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253317)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 12:42 AM
Author: Claret Autistic Heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253319)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 6:18 AM
Author: Excitant offensive temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253531)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 7:39 AM
Author: angry spectacular parlour trump supporter

Since his most famous quote is "Lord give me chastity and temperance, but not yet" I can totally see it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253559)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 7:44 AM
Author: Contagious Space Ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253565)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:26 AM
Author: cracking reading party plaza

If you actually read his autobiography instead of just LARPing that you did you’ll also see he had a lot of kids out of wedlock also.

He was also a composition teacher, like me!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254093)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 10:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle alpha parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256247)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:26 PM
Author: Claret Autistic Heaven

It's been a long time since I read Confessions but I vaguely remember he whored it up until well into adulthood. Had a concubine and lol'd at his mom for being virtuous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256360)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 7:43 PM
Author: cracking reading party plaza

That is correct. Put his kids up for adoption too I think. Or maybe that was only Rousseau.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46263098)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 9:17 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Genital Piercing

unlike you, he's able to procreate without the assistance of another man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256891)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 7:43 PM
Author: cracking reading party plaza

When was the last time you had sex with a woman though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46263096)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 8:17 PM
Author: angry spectacular parlour trump supporter

I don't know why you're being so mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46263280)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:49 AM
Author: Orchid Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254159)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 10:06 AM
Author: heady love of her life

For fucking christsake already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46253843)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:02 AM
Author: Mildly autistic flickering orchestra pit

Low iq pump what is your take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254015)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:05 AM
Author: Cordovan market partner

ive seen him depicted as dark skinned before but lol'd hard at that nose and lips.

if i saw the pic out of context id think it was someone making fun of blacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254022)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:14 PM
Author: canary trip shrine legal warrant

they may as well picture him with watermelon and fried chicken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256343)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:18 PM
Author: Cordovan market partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256345)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Chocolate Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256457)



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Date: April 30th, 2023 11:49 AM
Author: passionate vermilion wagecucks theatre

WE IS SAINTS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46254158)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 6:32 PM
Author: crystalline crotch brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46258744)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:13 AM
Author: Olive Stirring Hell Scourge Upon The Earth

"acknowledge the intellectual and cultural gifts Africa has given the world"

HOLY SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256453)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:18 AM
Author: smoky bbw garrison

this publication (despite the official-sounding name) is not affiliated with the catholic church. the article is an op-ed by a villanova sociology professor. there are a million catholic publications across the ideological spectrum (American Catholic, National Catholic Register, etc.).

you guys will read a leftist professor's thinkpiece about the Church as if its coming from the lips of the pope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256466)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 12:34 AM
Author: Maize Razzle Dysfunction

had he been sub-saharan, some note would have been made of that fact, given the importance of the man.

if he were your basic Northern Africa type of Berber, it wouldn't have been particularly note-worthy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46256500)



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Date: May 1st, 2023 7:37 PM
Author: Pearl diverse national security agency

North Africans despise niggers. They are going hard after the president of Tunisia for wanting to keep sub-saharans out https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/middleeast/tunisia-president-racism-africa-mime-intl/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5332724&forum_id=2#46258955)



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Date: May 2nd, 2023 7:45 PM
Author: Puce appetizing laser beams

St Augustine as black qua other/dusky outsider/nontraditional darkie is traditional catholic doxology as can be-- don't believe the current anti-woke bad faith misreading of an ebony tinged titan intellect who stood outside of the mainstream as any man

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