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Why would a black stay?
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they wouldn't that's why they're leaving. but as more cl...
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Is it trolling if you're being honest about how you feel?
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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:08 PM
Author: Bearded love of her life

https://old.reddit.com/r/biglaw/comments/14m4zz2/im_just_going_to_say_it_i_like_that_biglaw_doesnt/

I'm just going to say it, I like that biglaw doesn't have a lot of black people

Deleting my account after posting this but I love that biglaw doesn't have a lot of black people. Why? Because I deal with them in the city, every day. If they're not physically attacking you, they're verbally abusing you and making life difficult for everyone. I wasn't racist until I moved to New York City but having lived here for 8 years, I am now, and I'm fully justified. Biglaw is my sanctuary away from that. I'll take verbal abuse from a partner any day over some unemployed bum trying to goad me into a fight as I wait for the subway.

I hope the mods won't delete this, though they probably will, but I'm just being honest and expressing a deep frustration I have with this city. Amy Wax is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488576)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:09 PM
Author: Lavender aggressive pozpig

[–]OrneryHall1503 7 points 32 minutes ago

As a black person in biglaw this troll post actually hurt me because it’s probably how OP truely feels. And how many truely feel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488589)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:10 PM
Author: Alcoholic exciting really tough guy whorehouse

rofl every nigga i met in law was retarded, even partners, its actually insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488596)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:26 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

i've heard it's significantly worse now. friends still in biglaw complain that they literally cannot retain nigga associates. even though they're scraping the barrel the niggas are still leaving for other opportunities very quickly.

it's lolzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489051)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:27 PM
Author: transparent trip locale double fault

Why would a black stay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489060)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:29 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

they wouldn't that's why they're leaving.

but as more clients insist on "diverse" associates working on their matters the competition for dindu associates is going to get even fiercer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489070)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:41 PM
Author: brindle wagecucks principal's office

They all go in house and coast and get promoted quickly without doing much work and always relying on outside counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489166)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:45 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

i think like 5 of my dindu classmates are in house at disney now lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489196)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:45 PM
Author: transparent trip locale double fault

cr. same in the IT industry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489201)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:28 PM
Author: histrionic gas station puppy



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:28 PM
Author: bespoke soul-stirring resort

Not gonna lie, the Black Partner I worked for was a good guy to have at bat for us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489064)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:11 PM
Author: Canary outnumbered jew state

truely, indeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488600)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:11 PM
Author: Out-of-control floppy public bath



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:12 PM
Author: Lavender aggressive pozpig

Bills $900/hour, can't spell common five letter word

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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:22 PM
Author: Filthy violent partner crotch



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:24 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station



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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:01 PM
Author: Ruby hairraiser theater stage

Or use spell check in their browser/phone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490139)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:20 PM
Author: Grizzly Legal Warrant Abode



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:22 PM
Author: sable stock car laser beams



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: ebony stag film half-breed



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:25 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous doctorate home



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:39 PM
Author: excitant codepig becky



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:44 PM
Author: fuchsia rigor



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:46 PM
Author: ultramarine cracking orchestra pit turdskin

insane

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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:04 PM
Author: Confused aphrodisiac tanning salon police squad



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:38 PM
Author: Curious lay useless brakes

I am truely sorry for your lots

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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:00 PM
Author: Ruby hairraiser theater stage

can't make this shit up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490133)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 7:05 PM
Author: passionate naked theater

Is it trolling if you're being honest about how you feel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490997)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:10 PM
Author: Alcoholic exciting really tough guy whorehouse

rofl yeah but at least niggas in law firms arent gonna murder u (prob)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488592)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:28 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

you would think more upstanding niggas would be more like cosby and resent the buckwild dindus who give them all a bad name. instead it's in vogue to pretend like these people don't exist even though it's unavoidable on a daily basis in every major us city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489062)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:31 PM
Author: transparent trip locale double fault

That's part of the power they have over you. They can lie to your face and you can't tell the truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489082)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:57 PM
Author: titillating plum location corn cake



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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:14 PM
Author: Comical trailer park

Ok now do jews

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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:10 PM
Author: Chartreuse bateful stead

What's his moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488593)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 12:11 PM
Author: cerebral demanding background story property

Your post was removed due to low account age.

Does this mean what I think? Some random boy goes around deleting posts from new accounts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46488606)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:33 PM
Author: transparent trip locale double fault

Yes

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Date: June 30th, 2023 6:34 PM
Author: Bearded love of her life

No, it's automated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46496133)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:27 PM
Author: bespoke soul-stirring resort

Recruitment opportunity

They don’t realize how Prestigious we are

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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:27 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market

[–]moneyball32Associate 11 points 2 hours ago

I was waiting for the punchline but nah you’re just a bad person. I hope people continue to try to fight you on the subway. Pulling for them tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489061)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:32 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

"while i cannot contest that black criminality is endemic and that public transportation is often a harrowing and violent experience, i hope you continue to be violently harassed for noticing it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489085)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:44 PM
Author: fuchsia rigor



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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:58 PM
Author: titillating plum location corn cake



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:04 PM
Author: Irradiated Spot Main People



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:09 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous doctorate home



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:16 PM
Author: excitant codepig becky



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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:32 PM
Author: motley bipolar gunner

“While I will choose to ignore the outlandish racism of the post expressing gratitude that an entire race of people are not more prevalent in our profession, I will create a false quote from a commenter that is neither accurate nor humorous as a means to deflect, for I too am a racist piece of shit that aspires to one day be grand wizard of the Klan.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490309)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market

LOL. Left can't meme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490781)



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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:05 PM
Author: red cheese-eating bawdyhouse reading party

translation masterman

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Date: June 29th, 2023 1:42 PM
Author: Copper free-loading university party of the first part

"I wasn't racist until I moved to New York City but having lived here for 8 years, I am now, and I'm fully justified."

i mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489175)



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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:06 PM
Author: red cheese-eating bawdyhouse reading party

it's pretty hard NOT to be racist after a decade or more in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46617177)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:05 PM
Author: Confused aphrodisiac tanning salon police squad

]chevalierchouette 3 points 14 minutes ago

Everyone has already (rightfully) been dunking on you, so let me focus on a few aspects of your asinine post. (1) It boggles my mind that you move to NYC — a place rich with diversity — and you end up racist. What that tells me is that you already were racist and was just looking for pretext to “justify” your bad opinions. You went out looking for selective life experiences (“bum trying to goad me into a fight”) that would make you feel like your racism was fine. Well, tough luck, it’s not. I live in NYC, and this idea that your daily life is made sooo much worse by black people seems based entirely on stereotypes and fear-mongering from people not actually experiencing NYC, that you came in with preconceptions, saw black people, and decided that you didn’t want to interact with them. I would not be surprised if they didn’t even physically attack you or verbally assault you, and all they did was walk in your general direction or speak at a volume where you could hear, and that was enough for you.

(2) Biglaw, a bastion of old white men in power, being your sanctuary tells me everything. You didn’t say your home was your sanctuary or even your favorite brunch spot. You chose biglaw as your sanctuary. I’m not even saying this from a position of “biglaw is 100% evil, there are no redeeming factors,” but it’s just fact that biglaw is small-c conservative and quite homogeneous (especially among leadership). And that’s your safe space. Just, wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489360)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market

"It boggles my mind that you move to NYC — a place rich with diversity — and you end up racist."

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489419)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:14 PM
Author: stimulating telephone station

this is complete kayfabe. there is absolutely no way any person that can pass the bar and get into biglaw would have their mind "boggled" that someone experiencing living in a major metro for the first time would be influenced by constant black criminality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489443)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:16 PM
Author: excitant codepig becky



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market



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Date: June 29th, 2023 3:21 PM
Author: ebony stag film half-breed



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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:20 PM
Author: Violent Cordovan Indian Lodge Dingle Berry

that wasn't an attorney posting. no attorney would ever refer to biglaw as a sanctuary in any way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490815)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:18 PM
Author: black sandwich



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:20 PM
Author: sable stock car laser beams

"I would not be surprised if they didn’t even physically attack you or verbally assault you, and all they did was walk in your general direction or speak at a volume where you could hear, and that was enough for you."

ok to be fair they're probably objectively correct about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489493)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed autistic market

This thread is hilarious and a great reminder that these people are completely up their own ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46489432)



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Date: June 30th, 2023 8:47 AM
Author: Vibrant generalized bond cuckold

which people

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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:07 PM
Author: red cheese-eating bawdyhouse reading party

YOU people

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Date: June 29th, 2023 2:29 PM
Author: diverse degenerate

That's racist!

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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:06 PM
Author: Ruby hairraiser theater stage

The way people are responding is interesting. It’s not just “that’s not very nice - you shouldn’t be racist.” It’s anger and venom, almost like the op is saying some unspeakable truth or touching a particularly sore spot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490161)



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Date: June 29th, 2023 4:09 PM
Author: mildly autistic vigorous doctorate home

Heresy is hated. News at 10

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Date: June 29th, 2023 6:18 PM
Author: aromatic mad-dog skullcap national

Redditor cannot distinguish between black people in BIGLAW and black bums on the street and wants sympathy. And of course XO racist scum gives it to him.

Also, OP is probably the Redditor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46490810)



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Date: June 30th, 2023 5:40 AM
Author: Lake razzle-dazzle blood rage gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46492383)



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Date: June 30th, 2023 8:48 AM
Author: Irradiated Spot Main People

[ Removed by Reddit ]

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46492662)



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Date: August 1st, 2023 4:20 PM
Author: Dead hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5365226&forum_id=2#46617259)