If the elites want war, they're going to get it. That's what I think. Think whatever you want about the merits of open warfare with Russia, but if you don't think that accomplishes multiple objectives for the deep state, you're blind.
LOL are you retarded? The US government can justify any military engagement under the flimsiest of excuses. If Russia is losing so badly, it should be even easier to paint open conflict with them as a "necessary" action that will wipe up quick. Whether or not we have boots on the ground would have absolutely no relation to whether it would be needed or not.
They'll do whatever they need to do hold on to power.
Don't act like you wouldn't celebrate a move like that anyway.
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:44 AM Author: Adult Friendship Finder
i don't think it's a meaningful distinction
also in a year from now, when the US is still at war with russia via their ukraine proxy, if tucker is asked about this prediction he will claim he's correct. even though we still won't "officially" be "at war"
Date: August 30th, 2023 10:00 AM Author: Canary bull headed lodge
By that metric we were "at war" with the USSR every year since Korea. Every African proxy, Viet Nam, Afghanistan, the SDS. Sometimes 4-5x in any given year!
Date: August 30th, 2023 10:06 AM Author: Adult Friendship Finder
yes, we were indeed literally at war with the USSR for decades. that's why it was called the "Cold War"
i remember being 13 years old and being baffled at adults somehow actually believing that because the intelligentsia put an adjective before "war," that meant that it wasn't a "real war" and was somehow magically qualitatively different
Date: August 30th, 2023 10:15 AM Author: Adult Friendship Finder
indeed, SlavBot #81230298946. because the people in power put the word 'cold' before the word 'war,' and 'cold' is a different word than 'hot,' that means that the US-USSR existential conflict that defined the entire second half of 20th century geopolitics for everyone on the planet wasn't a Real War
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:42 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
We are using Ukraine as meat. Everyone knows it. Lindsey Graham was ebullient about it. It's funny how Republicans can flat out admit we are using Ukrainians as proxies, and libs will scream "Fake news! We're just arming them and training them and giving them intelligence! It's not a war!" Russia can admit it too. Russia will say "we are at war with NATO" and libs will say "What? We didn't hear that!"
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:01 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
Why do libs anyone assume a war with Russia and the USA would be "suicidal?" Sounds like something they heard in a hollywood movie. Didn't we kill several hundred Russian troops in Syria a few years ago? God DAMN libs are fucking retarded.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:41 PM Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)
Because a skirmish in a third world country isn't a war, you dumbass shitlib. American and Soviet troops also faced off over Korea and Vietnam, but in neither instance was the USSR an official combatant.
Because both countries would prefer MAD to conquest, nuclear weapons would almost certainly be deployed preemptively to eliminate as much of the other's first/second strike capability as possible.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:58 PM Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)
Yeah man, President Biden really dropped the ball when the Battle of Khasham happened in 2018.
No, I don't think that's a hot war. Under your definition of "hot war," the US and USSR were engaged in several hot wars all throughout the Cold War. Stick to whining about muon wobble, shitlib.
Date: August 30th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
Yes, that's my definition. Your definition seems to require an official public announcement from the POTUS. Under your definition, if the POTUS kills Russians but doesn't say shit about it, or even denies he did it, it's not a war. My definition of war doesn't hinge on what the POTUS says publicly.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: ponyboy curtis (If I May, tp)
They literally called Russia to confirm that they didn't have boots on the ground in the area were told "nope, thats not our guys. Fire away!" A situation like that can be easily resolved diplomatically and has almost no chance of turning into a hot war.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
One weird trick to kill 200 Russians without creating a diplomatic incident, let alone trigger a nuclear exchange. "But that's not real war..." seems to be the shitlib position, i.e. they are playing semantic games and ignoring the bombs and the corpses, as usual.
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:41 AM Author: titillating mentally impaired pit gaming laptop
Holy shit the lighting...Tucker has a bright red face. He looks like a suburban dad who just got back from taking the boat out and didn't put on any sunscreen.
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:46 AM Author: Canary bull headed lodge
Yes, the country that is currently fighting to stay 40km into its poor, small neighbor "brother" country is going to go HOT WAR with the US.
That makes total sense.
PUTIN: Hey Shoigu, you old Tuvan bastard. You know how we can barely hold onto the Zap Sich?
SHOIGU: Yeah boss, its a real bitch.
PUTIN: Let's distract from that fiasco and go FULL SEND and launch a fucking war against the US--by I don't know. We can send the Kutznenov against a Ford carrier group or fuck it--just land a brigade on the coast of California!
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:38 PM Author: Medicated Giraffe Lettuce
Oh look, a strawman. Literally no one said anything about Russia starting a war with the US. Or did you think they would do it as a solid to help Biden win the election?
Please, DO continue with your insightful ccommentary.
Date: August 30th, 2023 10:50 AM Author: Electric red haunted graveyard
No way. It would be limited. First, Russia has no expeditionary forces capable of starting wars outside its borders. Second, both sides aren’t going to risk nuclear war over anything.
But there won’t be any active war. Not worth it spinning out of control and going nuclear. Ukraine isn’t even strategically important for the US or EU. They are just taking the opportunity to neuter Russia. Like the USSR did in Vietnam.
Date: August 31st, 2023 8:27 AM Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)
the world could be coming to an end and there you are flicking your bean to some mythical poaster=elaborate flame from 12 years ago, get a life, u sad twat
Date: August 30th, 2023 11:15 AM Author: Carnelian swashbuckling orchestra pit telephone
Makes sense as a wag the dog if trump gets the nom. He's been painted as pro-russia. Get the US into a skirmish with russia and then trump will look soft
Date: August 30th, 2023 11:27 AM Author: Autistic Parlor Gaping
Love Tucker but gotta go with no on this one. And if the US was willing to get into a hot war over Ukraine, then we would be playing this war entirely differently. There would be a lot more support and we wouldn't care about nuclear war because we're getting into one sooner or later regardless.
Date: August 30th, 2023 5:40 PM Author: odious resort masturbator
any link to end of 2024? if that's the case then it really seems designed to entice the Ukrainians to keep on fighting without handing over any new equipment.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:33 PM Author: Stimulating Boltzmann
Their entire 'army' would be slaughtered in Eagle Pass TX, and that's just by rednecks and Tejano peasants with guns and Texas rangers, before the first US soldiers showed up
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:30 PM Author: impertinent charcoal set sweet tailpipe
Why are people acting like this is unrealistic? Skating by for 50 years without a conventional war with the Soviet Union doesn't mean that's the only way it will ever work, it just means we got lucky. It's probably good that the Ukraine stalled out before being in a position to meaningfully threaten Russian ownership of Crimea. Recently occupied territories are one thing but the chances of doomsday escalation would have spiked sharply if Ukraine rolled into Crimea.
The current battle lines are roughly where the countries probably should have been divided. It's time for a Winter War end to things. The US should be pressuring them to come to the table behind the scenes, with threats of full and open withdrawal of all support if they don't comply.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: glittery tattoo
Because it’s wildly unrealistic. Russia has shown they are scared shitless of America and will in no circumstances do anything that would threaten direct conflict with us.
They know they’re outclassed. Putin has publicly admitted this.
Date: August 30th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: impertinent charcoal set sweet tailpipe
That's not apparent at all and "trust us guys we can win doomsday chicken" is a retarded game to play just so that Zelensky can own the Russian speaking areas of the Donbas
Date: August 31st, 2023 2:36 AM Author: Opaque concupiscible plaza yarmulke
Yes quite obviously. Have you watched the news lately? Ukraine recently broke through Russian lines near Tokmak. If Tokmak falls, Ukraine controls the only rail line that supplies Crimea (other than the Kerch Bridge, which hasn't been operational in a while due to Ukrainian attacks). Meaning if Tokmak falls (which is likely to happen in the next couple months), it's probably only a matter of time before Ukraine retakes Crimea (plus essentially all of Kherson and Zaporizhiah oblasts).
So yes, Russiacuck, your genocidal dictator and his oligarch buddies are looking pretty fucked right now. U mad? If it makes you feel better, Israel is still supporting Russia, however.
Date: August 31st, 2023 3:33 AM Author: gay church ape
To be fair,
“Have you watched the news lately?”
Lmao uh, no.
Anyway wow sounds big/great for Ukraine, so when do you think they’ll win the war after retaking most of the territory that Russia currently holds? Can we get a rough time estimate on that?
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:02 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
They should be building tunnels right now like Vietnam. Tunnels should connect up to the tunnel network at Soledar where the mines are bombproof. They should just tunnel all the way to the Polish border. Just go as far west as they can. Fuck fighting right now unless you're just popping random Uke dipshits trying to push the line.
Date: August 31st, 2023 2:40 AM Author: Opaque concupiscible plaza yarmulke
LJL at you Russiacucks. Are you just abject morons? Russia is getting their face pushed in by fucking Ukraine using obsolete NATO weapons that were sitting in storage, and you think that they would last five minutes against the U.S.? Sorry Russiacuck, but if the U.S. sent troops to Ukraine (and nukes were off the table), all Russian troops would be gone within weeks if not days. And the casualties would probably be nearly zero.
Date: August 30th, 2023 1:00 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
To illustrate how batshit blind and dumb libs are, consider that Russia itself has said, countless times, that it considers itself to be at war with all of NATO right now. Russia also claims to have killed many US troops. It claims to have recently killed a US 2-star General.
Libs are in the fight of their lives to ignore all of this or claim it isn't happening. Because in their mind it's inconceivable that the US would let that happen. Libs think if a 2-star general gets killed in Eastern Ukraine, Biden will press the red button and the whole world will get vaporized. That's what they learned from Netflix. Since Biden hasn't nuked Russia yet, libs assume Russians are lying about all the US troops (and generals) they killed. Libs consistently fail to consider the possibility that Biden is taking it in the ass right now.
Date: August 30th, 2023 1:10 PM Author: glittery tattoo
That’s a weird name. I couldn’t find that general. Army or Marines? Will help me search and locate this totally real person who was totally killed by Russia in Ukraine ;-)
Date: August 30th, 2023 6:01 PM Author: pearl affirmative action
supposedly General Anthony Potts was killed in a missile strike in kramatorsk, and the military covered it up with a ludicrous story about a 'single-engine plane crash' or something.
Date: August 30th, 2023 6:04 PM Author: low-t legal warrant
"On July 25, 2023, Potts died in the crash of a Piper PA-28 Cherokee that he was piloting near Havre de Grace, Maryland. He was 59.[8] The crash is under investigation by the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.[9]"
Date: August 30th, 2023 4:08 PM Author: glittery tattoo
Oh weird, the video I found discusses ukraines biological research labs.
As we all know, per lsd, the US has been developing biological weapons at Biolabs we have spread around the globe as part of our nefarious effort to destroy Russia (the last bastion of western values and Christianity, we are told). I think that’s what EPAH and I are asking about. Do you have any updates there?
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
Libs think we just left those labs unsecured after the cold war. We could have easily send teams in there to find out what the fuck was going on make sure those places had good safety measures in place. However libs are fairly certain we didn't do this. No reason, we just didn't do it, according to EPAH.
Date: August 30th, 2023 11:08 PM Author: gay church ape
To be fair,
(Insightful genius — NOT a gullible retard — who was confident that Michael Avenatti would be the next big thing in American politics back when idiots like “Tucker Carlson” was confidently predicting that he would fade back into total obscurity within the year)
Date: August 30th, 2023 5:45 PM Author: odious resort masturbator
Think of this happening in several steps with the first one being a brigade from Poland/Balts being sent to Ukraine. It keeps on getting worse from there.
Russia has such a weak army (look how bad they're doing in Ukraine). absolutely no possibility of a land invasion or even conventional bombing, just nuclear war. it won't happen
Date: August 30th, 2023 11:11 PM Author: gay church ape
To be fair,
(This is actually what Libs think, but don’t worry — they have “experts” who agree, and they’ve never been continuously and laughably wrong about pretty much everything for the last five years!)
Date: August 31st, 2023 8:41 AM Author: glittery tattoo
It’s fascinating you of all people accost others for being “continuously wrong.”
From the cyber ninjas to FTX to Ukraine attacks in Russia being “giga retarded propaganda” I can’t think of anyone with a worse track record than you (except maybe lsd)
Yeah, I found the idea that Dems will obviously be going hard in the paint to stop Trump as the most interesting point here, but the same faggy warhawks took the bait like chum in water.
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:25 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
Libs ITT going apeshit trying to assure you that Biden will NOT go to war with Russia. "No sir, we will not attack Russia under any circumstances!" they are screaming. EPAH is mocking the very notion of a war, relentlessly. He's really giving it a go. I've never seen him on fire like this.
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:42 PM Author: glittery tattoo
EPAH and I are both closely plugged in the DOD and do indeed have very clear insight on what the DEEP STATE is planning.
With this obviously true premise in mind, one can logically conclude that our calling your fevered dreams stupid is indeed a strong indicator your fevered dreams are not stupid but are, in fact, brilliant.
Subsequent events will prove both of you correct in that libs will start a war with Russia to cover up for their failings (said failings including record low unemployment, blue collar wage growth, ending the war in Afghanistan, passing a large infrastructure bill, securing semiconductor supply chains and excluding China from the same, etc.).
You are both very smart and well aware of reality.
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:44 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
It's good to know Biden wouldn't respond if Kiev falls. I guess it's safe for Russia to keep going. Nothing telegraphs strength like screaming "under no circumstances will we attack!"
Date: August 30th, 2023 9:27 PM Author: glittery tattoo
I think we are hoping Russia “keeps going.” They are neutering themselves as a geopolitical player. It’s a really good outcome for the US. I think Kyiv is safe 😂
Date: August 30th, 2023 8:40 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
The reason it's so easy for Tucker to say that is because we're in a hot war right now. Remember when someone bombed the last restaurant in town and there were doods with US Army tats screaming in English? You can call them contractors but those are just vets who "retired" and got hired right back to fight for 4x the pay. Libs think Russia is afraid to kill Americans but Russia actually loves it.
The reason libs HATE to admit this is is because it illustrates what megapussies they are. The US used to roll out and stand up to great powers. Now it hides and uses contractors. Hannibal did the same thing, hired mercenaries to fight his war. Same result.
Date: August 30th, 2023 10:35 PM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
A hot war is any war inviting actual fighting. You're trying to play some stupid shitlib dance where you pretend "Ukraine" isn't just a proxy for the USA. You think your shitlib dinner theater can distract people from what's actually happening.
Date: August 31st, 2023 8:41 AM Author: honey-headed indian lodge rigpig
I'm speaking English right now but you don't seem to understand what I'm saying. Maybe you should learn to read English. You also sound like the kind of shitlib faggot who loses wars to the Taliban and Russia.