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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
odious field associate
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
Vigorous Obsidian Boistinker
  06/18/24
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primrose spectacular preventive strike
  06/18/24
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saffron ratface shrine
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
Sable rough-skinned tattoo church building
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
mind-boggling affirmative action theater
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
racy telephone
  06/18/24
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Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
odious field associate
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
passionate garnet office
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
odious field associate
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
passionate garnet office
  06/19/24
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Ruby Contagious Hospital
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
hairraiser black heaven puppy
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
Adventurous federal hall
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
lascivious blue house police squad
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
Vigorous Obsidian Boistinker
  06/18/24
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nubile jap selfie
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Ruby Contagious Hospital
  06/19/24
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saffron ratface shrine
  06/19/24
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burgundy box office giraffe
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
curious up-to-no-good station national security agency
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
lascivious blue house police squad
  06/18/24
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Lime Jet-lagged Hominid
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
bearded stirring twinkling uncleanness parlor
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
confused disturbing newt
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
infuriating national depressive
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
confused disturbing newt
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
infuriating national depressive
  06/20/24
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
vibrant persian locus
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
Lime Jet-lagged Hominid
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
lascivious blue house police squad
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
Lime Jet-lagged Hominid
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
magenta foreskin market
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
vibrant persian locus
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
magenta foreskin market
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
razzle parlour
  06/19/24
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Sickened university cuckold
  06/19/24
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passionate garnet office
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
mischievous step-uncle's house legend
  06/20/24
I’m gay
Silver appetizing indian lodge new version
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
startling useless brakes den
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
odious field associate
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
thirsty pearly property therapy
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
odious field associate
  06/19/24
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Underhanded razzle-dazzle degenerate locale
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
mind-boggling affirmative action theater
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
passionate garnet office
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
odious field associate
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
passionate garnet office
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
odious field associate
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
Heady Hyperactive Idiot Menage
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
odious field associate
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
odious field associate
  06/20/24
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Lime Jet-lagged Hominid
  06/21/24


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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: odious field associate

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Vigorous Obsidian Boistinker

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: primrose spectacular preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: saffron ratface shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: Sable rough-skinned tattoo church building

its basically invincible to physical damage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling affirmative action theater

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: racy telephone

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: odious field associate

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: passionate garnet office

Giant octopus would do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: odious field associate

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: passionate garnet office

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Ruby Contagious Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: hairraiser black heaven puppy

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Adventurous federal hall

save it for trivia, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: lascivious blue house police squad

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Vigorous Obsidian Boistinker

Youre gay, we get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: nubile jap selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Ruby Contagious Hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: saffron ratface shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: burgundy box office giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: curious up-to-no-good station national security agency

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: lascivious blue house police squad

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: Lime Jet-lagged Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: bearded stirring twinkling uncleanness parlor

Wtf is a summer glau

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: confused disturbing newt

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: infuriating national depressive

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: confused disturbing newt

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: infuriating national depressive

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764303)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: vibrant persian locus

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: Lime Jet-lagged Hominid

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: lascivious blue house police squad

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: Lime Jet-lagged Hominid

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: magenta foreskin market

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: vibrant persian locus

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: magenta foreskin market

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: razzle parlour

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: Sickened university cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: passionate garnet office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: mischievous step-uncle's house legend

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: Silver appetizing indian lodge new version

I’m gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: startling useless brakes den

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: odious field associate

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: thirsty pearly property therapy

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: odious field associate

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Underhanded razzle-dazzle degenerate locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: mind-boggling affirmative action theater

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: passionate garnet office

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: odious field associate

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: passionate garnet office

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: odious field associate

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: Heady Hyperactive Idiot Menage

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: odious field associate

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac poppy trump supporter

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: odious field associate

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: Lime Jet-lagged Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47766116)