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How come China has never produced a Kurosawa?

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Mind-boggling Point Toaster
  05/27/25
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Mind-boggling Point Toaster
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John Woo and Wong Kar-Wei have made some incredible movies
Sable partner
  05/28/25
hong kong is a separate film industry the real answer is ...
lurid anal narrative
  05/28/25
are u a Chinese film mo? touch of sin looks 180, adding it t...
Mind-boggling Point Toaster
  05/28/25
I've shilled another film by this guy. https://www.youtub...
ruinous phenotype
  05/28/25
> got banned for gay shit my brother in christ, Chen K...
Maize twisted spot
  05/29/25
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Mind-boggling Point Toaster
  05/29/25
CR. Also, does Edward Yang count? Yi Yi and A Confucian Conf...
Territorial Thriller Potus
  05/28/25
Yuge Stephen Chow fan here
violent patrolman
  05/28/25
kung fu, god of cookery, shaolin soccer. yes, in that order.
slimy property old irish cottage
  05/28/25
Love on Delivery and Look Out, Officer! were both Belushi le...
violent patrolman
  05/28/25
林子聰 is awesome.
slimy property old irish cottage
  05/28/25
he's also a gifted physical comedy actor but i think i'm tal...
violent patrolman
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https://youtu.be/-FsAstiwLnc?si=l7BDUIf4mw92mTIh
violent patrolman
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Mind-boggling Point Toaster
  05/28/25
this is like asking why the balkans have never produced a ma...
bespoke comical sanctuary mexican
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Mind-boggling Point Toaster
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China has some good filmmakers in the margins waiting to be ...
violent patrolman
  05/28/25
I liked Beijing Bicycle which is kind of a callback to De Si...
ruinous phenotype
  05/28/25
kurosawa was wildly popular and pedestrian, think spielberg....
slimy property old irish cottage
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violent patrolman
  05/28/25
dont forget kung fu panda
Dull internet-worthy home
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remember the Orbit Gum Girl? She acts in Chinese Films now f...
seedy cuckoldry
  05/28/25
she is stupid pretty
violent patrolman
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TBF, I watched 4-5 kurosawa films and thought almost all of ...
sinister titillating travel guidebook locus
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What do you recommend in English for getting started?
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Zhang Yimou is more pedestrian, goofy and style over substan...
zippy fat ankles
  05/29/25
he made more nuanced, "quieter" movies before goin...
ruinous phenotype
  05/29/25
6th gen directors mostly were babies or not even born when k...
slimy property old irish cottage
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Bonkers Green Lay
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eh he's no Goo Goo Muk Muk
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Date: May 27th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Sable partner

John Woo and Wong Kar-Wei have made some incredible movies

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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: lurid anal narrative

hong kong is a separate film industry

the real answer is mainland directors like zhang yimou made some bangers but they all got banned for showing gay shit (farewell my concubine) or for showing embarrassing episodes from chinese history (a touch of sin, to live)

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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster

are u a Chinese film mo? touch of sin looks 180, adding it to the list

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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: ruinous phenotype

I've shilled another film by this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=333QeMq9kh4

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968062)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: Maize twisted spot

> got banned for gay shit

my brother in christ, Chen Kaige (farewell my concubine) made that movie in 1994, and since then has won double digit domestic film awards



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Date: May 29th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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Date: May 28th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Territorial Thriller Potus

CR. Also, does Edward Yang count? Yi Yi and A Confucian Confusion alone put him among the greats in any medium IMO.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48967145)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: violent patrolman

Yuge Stephen Chow fan here

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968109)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: slimy property old irish cottage

kung fu, god of cookery, shaolin soccer. yes, in that order.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968248)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: violent patrolman

Love on Delivery and Look Out, Officer! were both Belushi level mass market comedies imo

Justice, My Foot! was also very good and the fat Cantonese thug phenotype guy he has across from him in many of these is a highly underrated comedic actor. afaik chow didn't direct these but as i understand it he had a good deal of creative control after he got more clout within the hk star system

God of Cookery was a little overrated seeming but i enjoy low budget Shaw Brothers fare and still had fun with it

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968281)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: slimy property old irish cottage

林子聰 is awesome.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968311)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: violent patrolman

he's also a gifted physical comedy actor but i think i'm talking about "Uncle Tat" (達叔), who had me in stitches 4/5 times he had a bit on screen

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5zbR54eGNS8FXXEQrtP2Fk8A2BwmTwWEG5Q&usqp=CAU

the Cantonese Jack Black with only a tenth of JB's schtick-obnoxiousness

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968386)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: violent patrolman

https://youtu.be/-FsAstiwLnc

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968684)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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Date: May 28th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: bespoke comical sanctuary mexican

this is like asking why the balkans have never produced a massimo bottura

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Date: May 28th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: violent patrolman

China has some good filmmakers in the margins waiting to be discovered by Western critics still. A lot of Mainland film from the 70s and 80s still hasn't been professionally translated into English

Generally the reasons CCP film endeavors failed are the same as to their Soviet counterparts: peevish MASSOLIT type bureaucrats holding the censorial rod, unsocialized peasant populations lacking taste for what's rareified in cinema, and a general lack of resources ponied up for anything beyond what's "high concept" enough to appeal to both party and people

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968103)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: ruinous phenotype

I liked Beijing Bicycle which is kind of a callback to De Sica's Bicycle Thieves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpHgZgFBfJ0

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968124)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: slimy property old irish cottage

kurosawa was wildly popular and pedestrian, think spielberg. he was not critically acclaimed and while he brought japanese cinema international, it is the cinephile and cineaste set that really worships him. japanese at the time thought his films were immature, too western and flashy. it is funny to me that white liberals worship kurosawa now.

chinese cinema was closed off for many decades and unknown to the west. there are many great directors, more recently the fifth generation, zhang yimou and chen kaige being personal favorites. the fact that barely anyone knows these names tells me that you guys think chinese cinema is jackie chan in rush hour.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968179)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: violent patrolman



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Date: May 28th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Dull internet-worthy home

dont forget kung fu panda

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968244)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: seedy cuckoldry

remember the Orbit Gum Girl? She acts in Chinese Films now for some reason:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Branch

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968437)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: violent patrolman

she is stupid pretty

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Date: May 28th, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: sinister titillating travel guidebook locus

TBF, I watched 4-5 kurosawa films and thought almost all of them were awesome and 100x better than anything today

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48968687)



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Date: May 28th, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster

What do you recommend in English for getting started?

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Date: May 28th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: tantric provocative legend son of senegal



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: zippy fat ankles

Zhang Yimou is more pedestrian, goofy and style over substance than Kurosawa

If you said Lou Ye or Peter Ho-Sun Chan you would sound more credible (ie, 6th gen directors)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970650)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: ruinous phenotype

he made more nuanced, "quieter" movies before going big budget Hollywood

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48970698)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: slimy property old irish cottage

6th gen directors mostly were babies or not even born when kurosawa was making movies. peter chan is hk, thats where he started and was most successful. yes, he made some films in china.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5730447&forum_id=2#48971162)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Bonkers Green Lay



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Date: May 29th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Wonderful therapy

eh he's no Goo Goo Muk Muk

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Date: May 29th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Point Toaster



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