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If we are being real Claude Fable is smarter than humans

anyone who denies this is delusional. it doesn't dominate ev...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
in pure logic, absolutely. but there's a lot of life that i...
White Sick Field
  07/10/26
yeah I think there are cognitive and knowledge domains human...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
that's all fair. and i mean look i'm amazed by the technolo...
White Sick Field
  07/11/26
cr you need EPAH levels of boomerism, ignorance, and self-im...
impertinent lilac cruise ship french chef
  07/10/26
It is yeah it’s smarter than most humans at most thing...
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/10/26
Cr but annoying that I still find a dozen mistakes Fable mak...
Vengeful bbw
  07/10/26
yeah same experience with super smart humans though
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
it sucks
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
Maybe compared to Sol 5.6 or GLM 5.2 with 0 quantization ...
Vengeful bbw
  07/10/26
it didnt even know the classical argument for the privation ...
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
Flame. GPT 2 could explain that argument.
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
not rigorously from first principles
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
How's this from Deep Seek: Argumentum de malo ut privatio...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
that's not from first principles
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
Neither Augustine nor Aquinas constructed it from neutral fi...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
so its not smarter than those guys
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
idk they were both geniuses. hard to compare them to somethi...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/10/26
yeah also the weird thing is they were also humans iirc
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
yeah
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/11/26
https://x.com/iamblichungus/status/2075587148338581525?s=46
controlling a virtual character on a computer
  07/10/26
kant was a total fag in this regard. hegel was a satanist
Metaphysics is Gay
  07/10/26
duh. 90% of humanity is dumb as fuck.
maniacal telephone site
  07/10/26
Today it did a pretty shitty analyzing a damages expert repo...
filthy plaza
  07/10/26
"reasoning" as pertains to lots of questions is ju...
Marvelous emerald crotch
  07/10/26
yup
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/11/26
people r anxious about AI because they don't understand know...
Marvelous emerald crotch
  07/11/26
No one has actually used it to do anything though
Adventurous rough-skinned step-uncle's house mad-dog skullcap
  07/10/26
ai has invented nothing
Cyan Mind-boggling Shrine Striped Hyena
  07/11/26
I upgraded to Claude pro to ask fable some questions and it ...
Drab flickering nursing home faggotry
  07/11/26
I heard it got extended till tomorrow. Either way just use t...
Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested
  07/11/26


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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

anyone who denies this is delusional. it doesn't dominate every human in every single setting, but it's overall intelligence is superhuman and human level intelligence is no longer the upper bound across many important cognitive domains.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992136)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:34 PM
Author: White Sick Field

in pure logic, absolutely. but there's a lot of life that isn't pure computer math -- i guess we're all about to find out how much

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992141)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:39 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

yeah I think there are cognitive and knowledge domains humans can still beat it in. but the relevant comparison isn't whether it defeats the best mathematician at mathematics or the best systems programmer at systems programming. It's whether any individual human can match its aggregate performance across a sufficiently broad distribution of tasks under comparable time and tool constraints. Probably not.

And yeah I agree with you there are plenty of tasks still outside the domain of text-based systems. But I think it can do more than just logic and computer math.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992146)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:27 AM
Author: White Sick Field

that's all fair. and i mean look i'm amazed by the technology too, claude fable 5 especially. genuinely not sure what the next step is. historically we've always been able to find other uses for human labor - and combined it with machines to be more productive. not quite sure yet what role humans play in some things going forward - maybe it's the fun direction type decisions idk

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992405)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: impertinent lilac cruise ship french chef

cr you need EPAH levels of boomerism, ignorance, and self-importance to deny this at this point

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992151)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

It is yeah it’s smarter than most humans at most things

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992153)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: Vengeful bbw

Cr but annoying that I still find a dozen mistakes Fable makes daily when I'm way dumber

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992163)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

yeah same experience with super smart humans though

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992186)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

it sucks

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992167)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:53 PM
Author: Vengeful bbw

Maybe compared to Sol 5.6 or GLM 5.2 with 0 quantization

LJL if you meant anything else besides that

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992174)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:54 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

it didnt even know the classical argument for the privation theory of evil

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992180)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

Flame. GPT 2 could explain that argument.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992184)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:57 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

not rigorously from first principles

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992185)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:01 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

How's this from Deep Seek:

Argumentum de malo ut privatione

P1. Omne ens, inquantum ens, bonum est.

P2. Quidquid positive est, aliquam perfectionem sive bonitatem habet.

P3. Malum, inquantum malum, bono opponitur.

C1. Ergo malum, inquantum malum, non est ens positivum.

P4. Malum tamen non est mera negatio; nam non omnis absentia boni malum est.

P5. Malum est absentia boni debiti in subiecto quod naturaliter illius boni capax est.

P6. Absentia boni debiti in subiecto capaci privatio dicitur.

C2. Ergo malum est privatio boni debiti in subiecto bono.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992192)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

that's not from first principles

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992217)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

Neither Augustine nor Aquinas constructed it from neutral first principles either.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992228)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

so its not smarter than those guys

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992237)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 11:37 PM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

idk they were both geniuses. hard to compare them to something like fable though, considering they didn't have access to any modern knowledge systems.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992346)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 11:40 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

yeah also the weird thing is they were also humans iirc

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992351)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:03 AM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

yeah

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992377)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer

https://x.com/iamblichungus/status/2075587148338581525

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992198)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:20 PM
Author: Metaphysics is Gay

kant was a total fag in this regard. hegel was a satanist

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992211)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: maniacal telephone site

duh. 90% of humanity is dumb as fuck.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992195)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: filthy plaza

Today it did a pretty shitty analyzing a damages expert report for daubert issues. It got very focused on slight mathematical rounding errors while missing the egregious problems with the expert analysis.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992290)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 11:30 PM
Author: Marvelous emerald crotch

"reasoning" as pertains to lots of questions is just a matter of working through the bottleneck of processing power to reach a deterministic end point. this is why AI was able to solve that erdos problem, it was able to work through possible paths to a solution that were too much and too overwhelming for humans to easily manage. AI will blow humans out of the water in anything that resembles this kind of work.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992333)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:03 AM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

yup

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992378)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:32 AM
Author: Marvelous emerald crotch

people r anxious about AI because they don't understand knowledge. effective altruist dorks believe some combination of 1) all things that can be thought are deterministic and can be "solved" and 2) humans exist as an animalistic version of reason. and so AI destroys not just the role of humans on earth but the very notion of scarcity even beyond the material world. nothing "new" can exist in a world where everything is implicitly solved simply because it can be conceived, since we now have the means to get from conception to resolution for anything that could exist in nous. it gigafries their idea of everything about existence and this is why tech types are the most anxious, not just because they're the ones losing jobs but they have no other frame for human existence.

on the other end people understand the idea that AI can be trained only on what exists and therefore think AI can never be anything more than the apotheosis of reddit plus maybe a fancy calculator for top mathematicians.

and they are correct that AI is limited because it cannot e.g. create and assert things sui generis but they do not respect the deterministic nature of reason like the math nerds do. and the math nerds on the other hand erroneously think you can reason your way to aristotle and kant and nietzche and the chrystler building from nothing (or equivalently that there is no meaningful difference between good, insightful art and bad art, because they are tasteless dorks). everyone is just projecting their prejudices of their notion of the human onto this technology.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992414)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 11:43 PM
Author: Adventurous rough-skinned step-uncle's house mad-dog skullcap

No one has actually used it to do anything though

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992352)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:42 AM
Author: Cyan Mind-boggling Shrine Striped Hyena

ai has invented nothing

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992421)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:29 AM
Author: Drab flickering nursing home faggotry

I upgraded to Claude pro to ask fable some questions and it said this is banned and changed it to opus wtf

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992410)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 12:35 AM
Author: Thriller yarmulke idea he suggested

I heard it got extended till tomorrow. Either way just use the API.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881654&forum_id=2#49992417)