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2006 PPP
Umber theater stage
  03/22/07
Thanks, I'll update my list: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.p...
Cordovan bearded boltzmann den
  03/22/07
*licks chops*
maroon deep school cafeteria
  03/22/07
like you'll make equity partner
azure stag film
  03/22/07
better chance than you do of making md anywhere.
vermilion marvelous sandwich
  03/22/07
incorrect
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
bwahahahahahahahahahahaha....*pause for breath*....ahahahaha...
maroon deep school cafeteria
  03/22/07
have you gotten into law school yet?
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
No. Is that your comeback? You won't make MD with that d...
maroon deep school cafeteria
  03/22/07
ok, you've got a long way to go then
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
And while I acknowledge that the likelihood of my achieving ...
maroon deep school cafeteria
  03/22/07
Although you are wrong about so many things, you could be co...
Titillating cumskin
  03/22/07
Are those 200 I-banking MDs, or 200 total, including private...
Harsh thirsty international law enforcement agency stain
  03/22/07
I can't be sure, but I think it was more general, so it woul...
Titillating cumskin
  03/22/07
also there are hr md's and it md's. these guys are lucky to ...
vermilion marvelous sandwich
  03/22/07
Meh, we'll see.
maroon deep school cafeteria
  03/22/07
in other news, blackstone's ceo is worth $10 billion.
azure stag film
  03/22/07
Tell me, how many Blackstone CEOs are there again?
ruinous phenotype
  03/22/07
everyone who graduates with a UCLA MBA is a blackstone ceo!!...
sepia location
  03/22/07
Fuck, why didn't I do that?
ruinous phenotype
  03/22/07
lolz cause you're going to law school lolz
sepia location
  03/22/07
it's probably your 580 gmat
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
You're right, a 780 is both necessary and sufficient to beco...
ruinous phenotype
  03/22/07
no, but 580 will keep you out of ucla
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
I hope you know that both posts you were responding to were ...
ruinous phenotype
  03/22/07
i hope you know ucla mba >>> hls jd
Twisted trip hell hunting ground
  03/22/07
ty, I lol'd.
ruinous phenotype
  03/22/07
Why is this article saying WLRK's profits went up by 10%? Th...
Splenetic Principal's Office Dragon
  03/22/07
Where does it say they went up 10%? EDIT: Oops, missed th...
Cordovan bearded boltzmann den
  03/22/07
Because if there are more partners this year, their profits ...
ultramarine frozen sex offender station
  03/22/07
It should be increase in PPP though -- that's how the figure...
Cordovan bearded boltzmann den
  03/22/07
Yeah. I hadn't looked at the artile/chart. Beats me then.
ultramarine frozen sex offender station
  03/22/07
Simpson T?
cerebral address doctorate
  03/22/07
Eddie Lampert and Boone Pickens both made over $1 billion la...
Bronze frisky mediation
  03/22/07
I'd settle for making $500 million if I could have the name ...
fighting forum
  03/22/07
Senior Partner leaves Paul Weiss for WLRK
effete office hominid
  03/25/07


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Date: March 22nd, 2007 6:45 AM
Author: Umber theater stage
Subject: 2006 PPP

Poor Skadden is like the little engine that could topping $2M for the first time. Sad really.

http://www.legalweek.com/Articles/1017935/MA+boom+drives+Wall+St+elite+to+3m+partner+profits.html

Average partner profits of $3m (£1.5m) have become the benchmark for top US firms, Legal Week can reveal, after a record year for M&A helped a handful of New York firms maintain their lead in the profession’s global profits race.

Manhattan M&A powerhouse Wachtell Lipton Rosen & Katz is top of the list with 2006 profits per equity partner (PEP) just below $4m (£2m), while Cravath Swaine & Moore’s PEP rose 13% to hit $3m (£1.5m).

Sullivan & Cromwell achieved a PEP figure of $2.8m (£1.4m), level with Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft. Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom, America’s largest law firm, broke the $2m (£1m) PEP barrier after a 16% rise.

The results, the first snapshot of the top US firms’ 2006 financial performance, mean at least four New York firms have average partner profits approaching or in excess of $3m, maintaining their lead over London rivals.

Currently only Slaughter and May and Linklaters have PEP higher than $2m (£1m), though many UK firms are currently predicting substantial profits growth when they finalise their 2006-07 results.

Another New York firm to post above-trend results is Fried Frank Harris Shriver & Jacobson, which unveiled partner profits of $1.53m (£787,000), a 23% rise on 2005, and revenues of $470.5m (£242m).

US partners point to a record year for M&A in America as the main driver for growth, with a clutch of big-ticket private equity deals dominating the market.

However, while top-tier M&A firms were able to cash in on a limited number of private equity club deals, deal volume was only marginally up on 2005, which meant many firms outside the top bracket were unable to keep pace. A dip in litigation work is also widely regarded to have hit the bottom line of a number of US firms.

Debevoise & Plimpton co-chair of litigation John Kiernan commented: “While there are pockets of intense activity, some firms have had to adjust to the winding down of the Enron and Spitzer-related work.”

Many Manhattan-based firms were also hit by associate salary rises, which one firm estimates lowered its PEP by 5%.

Despite these trends, UK firms’ New York practices have also enjoyed a year of growth.

Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer’s US operation is expected to record a revenue increase of around 50%, with a revenue

per lawyer figure comparable to top-tier Manhattan firms, while Clifford Chance will see a 20% jump in turnover following a year that has seen the firm secure a number of substantial US M&A mandates.

Linklaters managing partner Tony Angel commented: “In 2006, world markets were strong, so it is not a surprise the US firms have posted robust results.”

He added: “We are rapidly approaching a situation where our competitors are the other leading global firms — it has become largely irrelevant where they are headquartered. But after substantial investment over the last few years in their global networks, the four internationally-minded magic circle firms are performing very well.”

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Date: March 22nd, 2007 7:49 AM
Author: Cordovan bearded boltzmann den

Thanks, I'll update my list: Biglaw Profits Per Partner (PPP) info for 2006

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795595)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 8:18 AM
Author: maroon deep school cafeteria

*licks chops*

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795622)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 9:15 AM
Author: azure stag film

like you'll make equity partner

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795682)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:02 AM
Author: vermilion marvelous sandwich

better chance than you do of making md anywhere.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795813)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:20 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

incorrect

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796330)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:30 PM
Author: maroon deep school cafeteria

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha....*pause for breath*....ahahahahaha hahahaahahahahahaha

You sad, deluded fuck. Your "life" is the epitome of the modern upper-middle class tragedy. You're a joke.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796386)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:33 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

have you gotten into law school yet?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796411)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:35 PM
Author: maroon deep school cafeteria

No.

Is that your comeback? You won't make MD with that deficiency in wit. Or are you shooting for CEO now?

Fucking douche.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796422)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:36 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

ok, you've got a long way to go then

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796433)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:40 PM
Author: maroon deep school cafeteria

And while I acknowledge that the likelihood of my achieving partner is slim, you continue to delude yourself into thinking you'll be making MD. Enjoy a second round of burnout. Maybe you can come back and post about how much consultants make everytime there's a thread about biglaw salaries.

Get a fucking life.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796458)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:42 PM
Author: Titillating cumskin

Although you are wrong about so many things, you could be correct about this. Morgan Stanley makes 200 people MDs each year (based on an ad I saw in the WSJ a few months ago--although I am not sure how often these ads come out; I am assuming once per year).

At the top 50 law firms, of the 3000 or so who become associates, only 300 will eventually make partner. I am not sure how many people start out as associates at Morgan Stanley, but if it is less than 2000, then it is actually easier to make MD at Morgan Stanley (assuming you start there), then it is to make partner at a top 50 firm. Of course, only a very small percentage of HSW MBAs will start out as associates at these firms--about 15% based on stats on the wharton site.

It's possible that banks weed out a lot of people before they even get into a bulge bracket bank and law firms weed out during the first five years of practice. This actually makes sense since someone who is an associate at a ibank will be in their late 20s and has already been weeded out several times through analyst programs, MBA admissions, and ibanking recruiting. An associate at a top 50 firm is only weeded out once (law school admissions) since just about anyone at a top 10 law school will get a job in biglaw. Maybe it is better to compare an associate at an ibank with a mid level assoicate at a law firm, since about 1/2 of 5th year top 50 associates will make partner at a top 50 firm (since attrition is about 80% by the 5th year).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796469)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 1:05 PM
Author: Harsh thirsty international law enforcement agency stain

Are those 200 I-banking MDs, or 200 total, including private banking and other divisions where they'd make a fraction of top law partners?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796584)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 1:25 PM
Author: Titillating cumskin

I can't be sure, but I think it was more general, so it would include other divisions.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796717)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 1:50 PM
Author: vermilion marvelous sandwich

also there are hr md's and it md's. these guys are lucky to make $200k.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796873)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:27 PM
Author: maroon deep school cafeteria

Meh, we'll see.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796376)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 9:15 AM
Author: azure stag film

in other news, blackstone's ceo is worth $10 billion.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795678)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:14 AM
Author: ruinous phenotype (one, two, three, no gravity)

Tell me, how many Blackstone CEOs are there again?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795834)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:39 AM
Author: sepia location

everyone who graduates with a UCLA MBA is a blackstone ceo!!!111

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795919)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:40 AM
Author: ruinous phenotype (one, two, three, no gravity)

Fuck, why didn't I do that?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795920)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:46 AM
Author: sepia location

lolz cause you're going to law school lolz

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795946)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:19 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

it's probably your 580 gmat

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796328)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:21 PM
Author: ruinous phenotype (one, two, three, no gravity)

You're right, a 780 is both necessary and sufficient to become CEO of Blackstone.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796342)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:22 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

no, but 580 will keep you out of ucla

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796350)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:23 PM
Author: ruinous phenotype (one, two, three, no gravity)

I hope you know that both posts you were responding to were jokes.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796359)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:25 PM
Author: Twisted trip hell hunting ground

i hope you know ucla mba >>> hls jd

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796365)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:25 PM
Author: ruinous phenotype (one, two, three, no gravity)

ty, I lol'd.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796369)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:37 AM
Author: Splenetic Principal's Office Dragon

Why is this article saying WLRK's profits went up by 10%? They were at $3.89 million last year; $3.9 million this year means profits were basically flat. What am I missing?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795910)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:38 AM
Author: Cordovan bearded boltzmann den

Where does it say they went up 10%?

EDIT: Oops, missed the chart.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795917)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 11:54 AM
Author: ultramarine frozen sex offender station

Because if there are more partners this year, their profits could rise while PPP could remain flat?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796221)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 11:58 AM
Author: Cordovan bearded boltzmann den

It should be increase in PPP though -- that's how the figure is given in the other situations.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796239)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:00 PM
Author: ultramarine frozen sex offender station

Yeah. I hadn't looked at the artile/chart. Beats me then.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796248)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 10:38 AM
Author: cerebral address doctorate

Simpson T?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7795914)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 11:08 AM
Author: Bronze frisky mediation

Eddie Lampert and Boone Pickens both made over $1 billion last year.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796022)



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Date: March 22nd, 2007 12:05 PM
Author: fighting forum

I'd settle for making $500 million if I could have the name T. Boone Pickens.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7796275)



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Date: March 25th, 2007 12:46 AM
Author: effete office hominid
Subject: Senior Partner leaves Paul Weiss for WLRK

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/23/business/23churn.html

Co-Chair of executive compen$ation and employee benefit$ make$ the $witch. He just got a rai$e for $ure.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=599706&forum_id=2#7812558)