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ITT I summarize the Doe's requests for IPs in the new filing
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Date: January 25th, 2008 5:58 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression These are from Attachment 5 here: http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/connecticut/ctdce/3:2007cv00909/78132/21/5.html
This is kinda interesting and I'm bored so maybe I'll go through these and summarize them until I have something else to do. |
Date: January 25th, 2008 6:01 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Domains By Proxy: KVN wants names of all persons that registered Autoadmit.com, Xoxohth.com, Cohenrisk.com, and c16.statcounter.com
LOL @ statcounter |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:35 PM Author: hilarious home potus Haha. I thought the same thing. Why the hell do they think domains by proxy even has that info?
Here I'll make it easy for them:
Registrant: StatCounter 16 Chapelizod Moorings Chapelizod, Dublin 20 IE
dns-admin@statcounter.com +353.14361868 +353.16215744
Domain Name: STATCOUNTER.COM
Administrative & Technical Contact: Aodhan Cullen 16 Chapelizod Moorings Chapelizod, Dublin 20 IE
dns-admin@statcounter.com +353.14361868
Domain Name Servers: NS5.EV1SERVERS.NET NS6.EV1SERVERS.NET
Transfer-Lock Status: ENABLED
Created: January 5, 2000 Modified: October 10, 2006 Expires: January 5, 2009
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:02 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Go Daddy: All log files, authentication records, and file system backups since 2005 for Autoadmit.com, Xoxohth.com, Cohenrisk.com, c16.statcounter.com
LOL again at statcounter
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:21 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall this is what you get when people with zero CS background try to litigate in this area. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221481) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:04 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression PenTeleData: Info on IP 24.115.86.20 "at 3:23 am." Is there a date? Or do they always give the same IP at 3:23 am? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221405) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:14 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221455) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:27 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221516) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:16 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Reply from PenTeleData: No info available. We only keep logs for about 60 days. No info from January 2007 available. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221459) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:04 PM Author: bateful pink library tattoo I'm so glad I came to xoxo in March of 07. Pretty sure had I come a month or 2 earlier I'd be a D right now. Whew! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221408) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:04 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression MSN Hotmail: IPs and any other info on Hotmail accounts patrick8765@hotmail.com and batemanhls@hotmail.com. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221410) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:16 PM Author: henna bull headed prole brunch "batemanhls@hotmail.com"
Do you really need more information than this? |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:22 PM Author: maize mental disorder the moniker is from a movie d00der. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221491) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:17 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Reply from Hotmail: Will preserve the records. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221465) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:22 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221493) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film it's an IP in germany! (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221528) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:32 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221546) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:21 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor lol. Someone could make a concerted effort to waste Keker's money and time, if by doing nothing more than flooding that email with 'confessions' (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222649) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:30 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221541) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:38 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film yeah, it's not perfect anonymity if you're being actively surveilled by the cops or something, but for trying to track someone down after the fact it's pretty much absolute (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221565) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:07 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression HighBeam: IP addresses of all users who accessed the article about Doe's (alleged) dad (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-915261.html ) between 12:00 am and 5:23 pm on March 7, 2007. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221422) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:10 PM Author: gay cerebral plaza Kind of overreaching, no? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221434) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:18 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Reply from Highbeam: Request is technically impossible. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221469) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:21 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part lol (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221489) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:25 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221510) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:29 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film did they actually sign off with xoxohth? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221534) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:36 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221556) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:39 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film lulz (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221571) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:09 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Translation: We now have a running joke at the office about keeping IP logs for years for moron lawyers (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222609) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:15 AM Author: contagious theater The people you work with aren't smart enough to understand that they have to show that they tried to get the ip addresses?
Are your colleagues unfamiliar with the concept of due diligence?
Your office is full of stupid shits who don't know anything about the law. Maybe someday if you ever go to law school you'll see what it's like working in a law office. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:42 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222941) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:50 AM Author: contagious theater No, it allows them to get the judge to grant their motion for expedited discovery. Then they get to ask GTO and Rach for THEIR "nonexistent" (ahem) records.
Dig?
If you stick around long enough maybe something will rub off on you. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:21 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223010) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:31 AM Author: contagious theater What a shame that the yale professors and supreme court litigators on the Ps team don't have your legal acumen.
We're all waiting excitedly to see what sort of slick moves the Ds crack legal team will make. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:35 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223025) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:45 AM Author: contagious theater I guess you didn't read any of the filings, nor did you read what I just posted.
Some of the places they contacted DO have information that they will hand over to the Ps.
GTO and Rach DO have information that they are going to hand over to the Ps.
GTO announced right here that he has info, that the info will out one or more Ds, and that the Ds should get counsel. he said that he would not fight a subpoena and that he would comply with it.
Both he and Rach have been talking to the Ps.
The Ps approached AHWIAB and asked for cooperation. He blew them off and now he's named. What he did is minor - they probably would have let him totally off the hook in exchange for some info. But sadly, he just blew them off and has now been outed.
yeah, doing nothing is definitely the smart thing to do. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:56 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223060) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:01 AM Author: contagious theater No. He blew them off after he knew they knew who he was.
AHWIAB did not know what they wanted from him.
It was obvious to AHWIAB that they knew who he was and that they could serve him if they wanted to.
AHWIAB had nothing to lose by accepting their offer to talk. From what I can see, the things he said were minor compared to the others. It would not surprise me in the least if they were prepared to let him off the hook in exchange for ratting out the other Ds (or at least giving as much info as he could.)
Do whatever you want. The end result will be the same. by prolonging it you actually make yourself suffer more - makes no difference to me. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:06 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223084) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:10 AM Author: contagious theater You will definitely find out soon enough LOL.
I hope you're using tor right now. Just because you're on the gwerks account doesn't mean that your message can't be linked to an IP you know.
I mean, each message has a unique ID.... Do you not get that?
You do know that rach and GTO are on notice to produce all logs, right? And you know they are going to comply, right?
All they have to do is see what IP posted your messages. Done. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:20 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223126) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:27 AM Author: contagious theater Let me break it down for you like this.
It's easy to tell you're a D. You're using a CA. You're not only defending the Ds, which is fine, but you're obsessing over it and posting on the subject for hours.
You are also making the same sort of delusional, can't-accept-the-grim-and-ugly-truth "arguments" that other Ds make. These arguments are just absurd. Dismissed on summary judgment? That's just completely insane. Impossible. No one in their right mind would think this case would get dismissed on summary judgment - unless they were simply unable to accept the ugly truth of the consequences of a motion for SJ failing.
NOW - we know you're a D. And soon they are going to have ALLLL the ip logs - including today.
They just look up your IP address, and they can use that to give them a starting point to look for other posts you've made.
You're fucked. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:30 AM Author: duck-like stock car
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:35 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223026) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:47 AM Author: contagious theater "If the Ds legal team manages to figure out who they're litigating against in under 10 months, they'll be way ahead of the plaintiffs."
Uhhhhh...what? Please rewrite this so that it isn't incoherent.
Maybe you don't understand - many of the contacts DO have information and ARE ready to hand it over.
GTO has told the board that he has info that will out one or more Ds and that he is ready to hand it over.
What are you getting at here exactly? |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:52 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223048) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:54 AM Author: contagious theater They already have outed one of the Ds. Maybe you don't pay attention very well.
Survive summary judgment? Are you serious?
GTO said he was going to out one or more Ds.
You can continue to delude yourself if you like, or you can prepare for the shitstorm that lies ahead. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:10 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223095) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:12 AM Author: contagious theater Ummmm ya ok.
Sleep well ok? Oh and by the way rach and gto are on notice to produce all their IP logs, including today and every day.
Nighty night. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:15 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part It's hilarious how you, NYBarExamGod, show up at all the right times to quibble with unimportant aspects of posts here, defend the Ps, and call just about every poster a defendant - almost reminiscent of paranoia.
Then signing off every post with a "Better watch out - Rach's gonna get you!" If I didn't know any better, I'd almost think you had a personal interest in the lawsuit... |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:16 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223112) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:20 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. He's been quite persistent for the past 8 months. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223127) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:22 AM Author: contagious theater You assume that anyone who sides with the Ps must be one person, that there can't be *gasp* more than one?
I already said what my personal interest is. Schadenfreude.
I defend the Ps because the stuff the Ds said was way, way over the line. I'm not very happy about a lot of what's going on on the Ps side, but it is impossible to not empathize with them. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:24 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part "You assume that anyone who sides with the Ps must be one person, that there can't be *gasp* more than one?"
I'll paypal you $1000 if you are not the same poster as NYBarExamGod. Same posting style, same terrible analysis of the law, same lack of knowledge of the technical issues, etc.
"I already said what my personal interest is. Schadenfreude."
Of course, because you're a dick.
"I defend the Ps because the stuff the Ds said was way, way over the line. I'm not very happy about a lot of what's going on on the Ps side, but it is impossible to not empathize with them."
I can agree with this. Not ALL the stuff the Ds said was 'way, way over the line', but obviously much of what went on during those threads was very objectionable. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:12 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223264) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:09 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression University of North Carolina: IPs of all users that accessed the article about Iravani (http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/apr04/udall042604.html ) between 12:00 am and 5:23 pm on March 7, 2007. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221427) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:10 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part This is awesome. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221430) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:12 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221441) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:13 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film I would imagine that's several thousand IPs... (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221445) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:00 PM Author: duck-like stock car
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:55 PM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor It's totally ludicrous however from an IT perspective. Unless the archiving software is malfunctioning, there's no way UNC has that information for more than 3 months at most. And there's no way that person's ISP has that information for more than a few months. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222553) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:57 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222566) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:20 PM Author: henna bull headed prole brunch Why even bother being a Doe at this point? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221476) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:48 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221605) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:11 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression VLEX: IPs of all users that accessed the Fourth Circuit court opinion on Doe II's father between 12:00 am and 5:23 pm on March 7, 2007. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221439) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:32 PM Author: onyx water buffalo area It seems to me a pretty frightening thing that, whatever the reasons, the legal system can be used to "catalog" information on anyone who viewed/read a court opinion. I know jack shit about the law and law school, but doesn't that set a fairly dangerous precedent? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221548) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:44 PM Author: judgmental heaven depressive not at all.
you have no reasonable expectation or privacy when you go to a court to ask for information voluntarily.
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:37 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221559) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:45 PM Author: judgmental heaven depressive have you taken Criminal Procedure? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221592) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:49 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221607) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:47 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221600) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:13 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression ServInt (I guess this is Xoxo's server host): All logs from May 1, 2005 to present for Autoadmit.com, Xoxohth.com, Cohenrisk.com, and c16.statcounter.com. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221446) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:20 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Reply from ServInt: We lease our servers, and we have no control over the data. No backups. Can't say whether logs exist, but very unlikely. Logs typically held for less than two weeks. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221477) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:22 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film pwn3d (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221490) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:29 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221530) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:15 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression University of Virginia: Logs and identifying info for IP 128.143.65.74 between 1pm and 6pm on March 7, 2007.
Reply from Virginia: Will preserve the records. |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:18 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part this is tantalizing... any idea who this refers to? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221468) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:21 PM Author: henna bull headed prole brunch Someone who submitted pictures of UVA girls? NASC? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221482) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:21 PM Author: submissive sticky senate i recall there was a dood from uva who offered pics to the t14 admins
he seemed like he was into good-natured fun and not defamation though so i doubt he would be one of the Ds |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:23 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part yeah, I think you and stapler are right. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221499) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:38 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221562) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:38 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221566) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part you're right, it doesn't really say that they HAVE a name, or even that the records were still extant.
Either way, it's interesting. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:45 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222948) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:48 AM Author: contagious theater You're reading way, way too much into it.
You're assuming that the person who wrote this email actually knew specifically what info they had. That's not what she says. She said that she was told that they were preserving everything they were able to associate with the IPs.
You Ds are so desperate you try to find a glimmer of hope in the most hopeless of places. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:31 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223021) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:49 AM Author: contagious theater You are most definitely right about that. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223042) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:53 AM Author: Histrionic olive sex offender alpha It's hilarious how the plaintiffs and/or their sympathizers and legal counsel seem to constantly troll XOXO to try and scare the defendants into turning themselves in. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223051) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:57 AM Author: contagious theater So why do you think that is? From the way you phrased this it appears that you think I'm trying to goad the Ds to turning themselves in.
That's not at all true. The Ds are going to get busted, I don't care how it happens.
My motive is far more simple. Schadenfreude. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:03 AM Author: Histrionic olive sex offender alpha You yourself may not be, but it seems very clear that they are pretty desperate, having resorted to both hacking and social engineering attacks in their quixotic battle to remove anonymity from the internet. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223075) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:14 AM Author: contagious theater You really think they sent the hacker after xoxo? LOL
What social engineering attacks are you talking about? LOL idiot.
How's that ulcer? Must suck, all this stress. Keeps you up at night evidently. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:07 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part Not a D, nor am I unsympathetic to the Does lawsuit. Take your sanctimony elsewhere (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223087) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:16 AM Author: contagious theater All the IP logs in the world wouldn't matter with regards to you anyway. GTO already knows who you are. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223111) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:18 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part no fucking joke, the entire board knows who I am. What's your point? Going to continue to cower behind your anonymity, taking cheap shots at me as if I had something to do with the lawsuit?
NEWSFLASH: Many of us posters on here are sympathetic to the Does (even if we think some of their claims are on shaky legal ground), hate pauliewalnuts as much as the Does (or even more so), and generally have no quibble with persuing some of the defendants. Like I said, take your sanctimonious bullshit elsewhere. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:35 AM Author: contagious theater LOL Claims on shaky ground? Care to present your arguments against?
Everyone hates PW. Everyone with a brain knows that he'll sell out everyone if he gets the chance. In fact the only reason he probably hasn't sold everyone out already is the fact that he's afraid they'll track his email down.
This is the guy who outed a Sullivan and Cromwell associate for merely emailing him that he liked the T14 site. That guy is pathological. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:41 AM Author: French Party Of The First Part "LOL Claims on shaky ground? Care to present your arguments against?"
we've been through this ad nauseum. Regardless, the Ps will get what they really want, which are outted defendants (although I highly doubt they'll get more than a small handful... we'll see in the coming weeks/months)
"Everyone hates PW. Everyone with a brain knows that he'll sell out everyone if he gets the chance. In fact the only reason he probably hasn't sold everyone out already is the fact that he's afraid they'll track his email down. "
I would be very, very, VERY surprised if all the Ds know each other. In fact, I would be surprised if PW could actually give anyone away. I'm sure you have a brilliant theory as to why this is wrong. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:48 AM Author: contagious theater No really, I'd like to see your arguments for why the Ps claims are on shaky ground. Did you just read the complaint? Seemed quite compelling to me. Summary judgment? As a matter of fact I DO think the case could be won on summary judgment - by the Ps! I just don't see how the Ds could come up with any defense to the defamation per se claims. Please, I'd love to hear your jurisprudential analysis.
You must know about PWs penchant for outing people yet you claim that he can't out any of the Ds. Now I know you're lying. He is a notorious outing villain. THere are thousands of posts about his outing exploits and the great efforts that were undertaken to clean them up.
I KNOW you know about these things. The fact that you're denying it here proves to me that you are a liar. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:20 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part "You must know about PWs penchant for outing people yet you claim that he can't out any of the Ds."
I never said he couldn't out any of the Ds. Why do you insist on hyperbole and strawmen against people who actually agree with you? Stop being an insufferable cunt
"He is a notorious outing villain. THere are thousands of posts about his outing exploits and the great efforts that were undertaken to clean them up."
At least THREE OF THE PEOPLE HE CLAIMED TO OUT WERE NOT WHO HE SAID THEY WERE.
I would appreciate it if you stopped calling those who have honest disagreements with you a liar. People can have differences without lying, and the fact that you impute bad motives to every fucking poster here shows what a delusional moron you are. |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:17 PM Author: henna bull headed prole brunch What about Yahoo for every IP that searched for her full name? If the Does pretended to be Chinese, Yahoo would fork it over in a heartbeat. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221467) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:18 PM Author: submissive sticky senate looks like their strategy is to run several targetted searches and hope the Ds did not anonymize themselves so that they can be pinpointed. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221470) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:21 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression AT&T: Subpoena for all documents related to IP 75.18.198.98 at July 18, 2007 at 2:54 am. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221487) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:24 PM Author: submissive sticky senate so did the Ps manage to get IPs from rachmeil?? how do they know specific IPs they want more info on?? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221507) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:05 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221655) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:28 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Maybe, but why wouldn't rach tell everyone he was going to log IPs from now on? That's by far their most promising lead, that rach logged IPs and people kept using those accounts. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222679) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:26 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall wtf? July 2007 was long after the shit in the complaint happened. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221514) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:39 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221570) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221577) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:52 PM Author: yapping frisky rigpig national security agency nice find (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221619) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:56 PM Author: gay cerebral plaza The internets are creepy. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221634) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:13 PM Author: Electric Insane Famous Landscape Painting Liquid Oxygen There's no doubt in my mind that this guy is an XO poster:
"i even read and enjoyed your screed on beatrice.com. no one reads fiction nowadays because we get all the fiction we can handle from the teletube and the interweb."
Also rails against AA, cites O'Connor in gruter, and talks shit to a bunch of black profs.
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:16 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221679) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:21 PM Author: Rose Filthy Genital Piercing Theater Stage Actually there's an old XO poster named Chauncey, correct? This guy might get PWNED. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221698) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:25 PM Author: Exciting cuckold yeah. i wonder which of the defendants are his flame monikers. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221710) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:26 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221713) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:46 PM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221779) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:29 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221723) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:35 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221736) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:02 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221828) |
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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:58 PM Author: slap-happy honey-headed internal respiration pwned (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9397124) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:22 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Embarq: Subpoena for IP 71.48.140.93 between 12am and 5am on March 7, 2007. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221496) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:25 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221901) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:24 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression Subpoena to Ryan Mariner. Who is Ryan Mariner? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221502) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:25 PM Author: submissive sticky senate lol
where've you been dooder? |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression I don't really follow this every day. He could be monster from Cloverfield for all I know. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221524) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:26 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film I think the consensus is he's AHWIAB (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221515) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:31 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221544) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:27 PM Author: green irate ape and how did they zero in on this guy? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221520) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film he probably said enough shit on xoxo that they could narrow it down (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221527) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:30 PM Author: green irate ape (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221537) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221578) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:43 PM Author: green irate ape (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221582) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:30 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221918) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: henna bull headed prole brunch Quick google search suggests that it's a name associated with George Mason UG. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221525) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:25 PM Author: Sadistic vivacious base indirect expression All (or at least most) of the above were then subpoenaed. Seems like they didn't really pay attention to the responses. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221509) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:48 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall this lawsuit is 179 pages of shit.
These companies only keep logs for 60-90-120 days. Most of the logs they are seeking preservation of did not exist anymore at the time they were seeking the preservation. They will never be able to out more than a handful of D's. These lawyers are clearly not aware of how this stuff works.
Microsofts response is the best, they say they will preserve everything they have but they probably dont have anything because they delete everything every 90 days. The material they want preserved dates to March, but the request dates to December...its all long gone! |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:57 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221637) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:00 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall legal malpractice is what the Does should be suing for. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221643) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:03 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221650) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:33 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221923) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:19 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse No, nobody's been subpoenaed. Good thread overall, but the subpoenas are proposed ones to show the judge. Plaintiffs can't issue a subpoena without the court's permission since discovery hasn't began. That's the whole nature of the motion for expedited discovery. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222459) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:22 PM Author: smoky spectacular university Chances this and the extension motion are granted? 100% each due to the total lack of opposition, right? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222470) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:26 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I'm not sure if the judge can just automatically grant it because there's no opposition. There's got to be law on how judges handle this, but I imagine the judge has an obligation to consider the reasonableness of it.
I don't know the judge and what the legal authority would be for the defendants' position, but the plaintiffs put together a convincing argument for why they're entitled to proceed in this fashion. I don't think the discovery is overbroad and burdensome, either. They're not asking for the moon and the stars; they want very specific things. |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:29 PM Author: odious abode trump supporter quality thread
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:41 PM Author: judgmental heaven depressive quality moniker. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221580) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:06 PM Author: odious abode trump supporter lolzlolzlolzlolz
not too bad yourself |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:31 PM Author: judgmental heaven depressive tytyty (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224150) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:36 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part I love the autoadmit screenshots
"No one got sued in the old days" followed by "lol"
then
"first" followed by "DAMN YOU!" and then "PWN3D!"
EDIT: SWeet, even one of my posts ends up on there |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:38 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221563) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:38 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part of course. They probably still lurk, guilty pleasure and all that. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221567) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: green irate ape *waves to KVN associate*
Do your support WGWAG, KVN associate? |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:46 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221597) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:53 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part I'm amazed at how detailed everything is so far - KVN is certainly not half-assing it. I wonder how much time overall has been spent on the case. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221624) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:54 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall it is a god awful waste of man hours. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221630) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:58 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221639) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:02 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall you gotta love America, so busy much work for so many worthless people. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221648) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:54 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221629) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:23 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221704) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:27 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221718) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:28 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221719) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:35 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I wonder if they can "waive" their right to proceed as Does by not taking reasonable /sufficient measures to protect their identities from being revealed. It's not like they filed anything under seal. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222499) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:48 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221604) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:52 PM Author: French Party Of The First Part There's no way to recap the whole story. The complaint itself (linked above) alleges all the material you need to know about why the xoxo posters are getting sued. The whole story is pretty damn long. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221621) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 6:53 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall the subpoenas are futile since logs older than 120 days are about as likely to exist as Martians so there is nothing to worry about for the D's. Lawyers are technologically incompetent people. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221622) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:11 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221670) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:05 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221658) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 9:08 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222035) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:38 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222503) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:18 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222636) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:33 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222706) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:35 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Actually the truly scary thing is--think about it for a second--if these people are crazy enough to do this shit when only mildly provoked by a national news story, do you really want to ruin their careers? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222716) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:51 AM Author: Geriatric point um...yes? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222783) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:27 AM Author: contagious theater Even more reason to ruin them if you ask me. I don't want far out psychos dragging my profession down.
At least that's one good thing that will come out of this suit. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:35 AM Author: Citrine Stag Film that and the murder suicides (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223803) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:48 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Or just suicides. Expect some estates to be litigating on behalf of the D's. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223829) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:51 AM Author: Citrine Stag Film fuck that, if someone was able to drive me to suicide, I'd kill them first before i offed myself (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223834) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:00 PM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Come now. The people here aren't really stable to begin with. Do you really think the last 7+ months of pressure bearing down on the defendants hasn't gotten to them? Affected their work or grades? Imagine all those weeks and months of going into work and spending late nights in the office or law library, knowing that at any time all the work and planning that got the defendant where he or she was would be snuffed out in two subpoenas. Imagine spending every day wondering when and if your career would end, or what GTO had in his files, or what other people you've never even met might be doing to sell you down the river. Eventually, in fear of being found out, it might affect your social and family life, making you withdraw a bit, making you really wonder why it's worth living when it'll likely all be destroyed. One day, this thought crosses your mind when you're at the grocery store, and you buy three bottles of tylenol. "Migraines," you tell yourself as you walk home. But as soon as you get into your soiled, dingy 1-br apartment, you open them all up and ingest every pill you can, downing it all with cheap bourbon. Then, sprawled out on the bathroom floor, you wait to die wretched and alone. You don't leave a suicide note and don't tell anyone. You're discovered only after several days of not responding to calls, answering e-mails or being seen in public. Nobody knows why it happened until the day the subpoenas come. Suddenly Keker & Van Nest is litigating against the estate of the Ayatollah or Rock-n-Rollah. Then, in an awesome flash, it all becomes clear. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:03 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film or in the alternative, the day the subpoenas come out, our unstable D makes a quick trip to New Haven and attends to some business before downing the 3 bottles of tylenol...that's what I'd do, but I'm not a coward (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223850) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:05 PM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor You realize saying things like that is what got some people named as Defendants. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223857) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:08 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film 1) i'm not a defendant 2) I'm not going to be driven to suicide
I'm allowed to speak hypothetically |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:48 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret Wow, though. You verbalized an "Armageddon" theory that I'm surprised hasn't gotten more consideration. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9225141) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:08 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222858) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:46 AM Author: contagious theater Sometimes people can make you do stuff and they don't have to ask nicely. This would be a prime example.
Sure, go ahead and blow them off if you think they were rude. But don't make the mistake of thinking that they were asking you to do them a favor. You're going to end up doing it one way or another. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:24 AM Author: contagious theater I saw the emails one of the does sent asking for the posts to be removed. Rach told us he wouldn't remove them because she didn't ask nicely enough. He was wrong - I thought her emails were very courteous.
When they didn't take the threads down - a practice that is nothing new to xoxo - what did you expect them to do? Say "pretty please" again and again?
They took it to the next level. Big surprise. There's nothing wrong with doing that. What WAS wrong was the response. Totally stupid.
A lot of people who were convinced they were invulnerable are about to pay dearly for their naivete. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:31 AM Author: duck-like stock car
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:52 AM Author: contagious theater Oooo yeah, the Ps really did mess with the wrong crowd. *rolls eyes*
The Ps have taken this about 10000 levels higher than the Ds are capable of going and the great thing is - no one is going to take your side.
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:02 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223072) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:08 AM Author: contagious theater I read the emails that were sent before RD stepped in. They were very polite. Rach and GTO did not comply.
Do I think RD helped matters? Of course. He was asked nicely and refused. Then it was time to ask in a not so nice way.
The Ps are getting what they wanted and the Ds are just losing more and more and more and they have dragged xoxo down with them.
Think about how much revenue GTO and rach have flushed on account of this alone. Not to mention a lost job for GTO and god only knows how much hassle and stress.
The only people who regret RDs involvement are rach gto and the Ds. LOL
If you really think they are going to risk anything at all on saving the ds necks you're wrong. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:15 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223106) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:44 AM Author: contagious theater Maybe you don't understand this board very well. It is entirely possible that these Neanderthals would have done the exact same thing even without RD.
They wanted posts removed. They asked nicely. They weren't removed. Did you expect them to leave it at that, to just give up without any further effort? That's foolish.
So what do you think they should have done besides contact RD? What tactic do you suggest they should have employed that would have gotten them what they wanted without RD?
None of it matters anyway - xoxo's overreaction and retaliation against the does after they did nothing wrong is NOT the does fault in ANY way. The Ds are entirely at fault. What the Does did is entirely reasonable and probably the only thing they could have done. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:15 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223108) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:00 AM Author: contagious theater I'd say that the Ds miscalculated far worse than the Ps did here. You mention the things the Ps got that they didn't bargain for.
The GTO bargain on losing his job? Did rach and GTO bargain on losing all of their advertising revenue?
Did all of the Ds bargain on having their careers destroyed?
Even the Ds who are never identified - if there are any - are still going to have to suffer many many more months of not knowing for sure. That alone is serious punishment.
I disagree. I think the Ds definitely miscalculated worse than the Ps. I think the Ps made exactly the right decision. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:27 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223316) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:31 AM Author: contagious theater Yep, looks like its a slam dunk victory for the Ds. Nothing to fear. Thank goodness none of the Ds ever aimed or emailed or met or spoke to GTO or Rach or AHWIAB or ak46 or pauliewalnuts. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223334) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:07 PM Author: slimy flushed space (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224094) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:24 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223780) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:33 AM Author: gaped fortuitous meteor Anon is cruel. Anon does not show mercy. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222708) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:16 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222873) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:39 AM Author: Citrine Stag Film we are legion? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223810) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:21 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221696) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:25 PM Author: Slate High-end Hospital Community Account My favorite part is where they asked GoDaddy for the relevant records which are clearly server based. They couldn't tell the difference between someone running the DNS servers and the organization hosting the data. Pretty incompetent. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221712) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:45 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221963) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:49 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221970) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:51 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221977) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 9:27 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222094) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:51 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222540) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:01 AM Author: contagious theater Shows what you know.
This is standard OP in the practice of law.
Of course they ask people who clearly won't have anything. The purpose of asking isn't only to get the info, it is to show that no more info can be gotten.
When Rosen posted notice of the xoxo lawsuit on the board last summer, he included a request for the Ds to contact him. He didn't do that because he actually thought that they WOULD. He did it so that he could say that he TRIED. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:13 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse Right. In other words, judges don't like to act unless you convince them that their acting is the only way to prevent the sky from falling. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222619) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:23 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222658) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:35 AM Author: contagious theater You don't get it.
Ps: Judge the plaintiff moves for expedited discovery.
Judge: Why, can't you get the IDs without it?
Ps: No judge, we contacted everywhere that might have the records.
Judge: Why didn't you contact all of these sources that might have had IP info?
Ps: Those sources are likely to only keep the data for up to three months so we didn't bother.
Judge: You didn't bother? Motion denied. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:41 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222739) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:56 AM Author: contagious theater I just don't get what you're bitching about. They need to show the judge that they did a lot of legwork. To do that you show the judge records that you tried to get info and couldn't.
If you read any of the materials, a lot of the replies said that they would hand over all the info once they were presented with a subpoena. GTO said the same thing.
Now they go to the judge. "See judge? We tried really really hard but we couldn't get the info we wanted. But we DID get a lot of responses saying they would give us what we want if we can provide a subpoena."
Judge: Motion for expedited discovery granted.
See how this works? |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:13 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222998) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:20 AM Author: contagious theater No no no. You don't get it.
Remember all those replies that said that they DID have info, and they'll hand it over when they get the subpoena? BINGO. That's what expedited discovery is for.
GTO and Rach were on the subpoena list too and they have records. We know that they have SOME records and we also know that they were given notice to preserve records in March 2007.
If GTO is a smart man he will have kept ALL of the ip logs.
We know for a fact that they lied when they claimed they never kept IP logs, and we all know that they at least have some.
We also know that GTO has given the board a heads up - he said that he has files on the Ds, and that he would not fight it if the Ps subpoenaed him to hand them over. The Ps also want to depose both him and rach.
That means that every D that GTO and Rach can name is going to be outed.
Are we on the same page now? What do you fail to understand about this? |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:32 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223022) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:03 AM Author: contagious theater Now THATS wishful thinking if I've ever heard it.
What about GTO's statement that he had info that would out the Ds and that he would not resist a subpoena? Did you forget about that?
LOL |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:08 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223092) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 3:56 AM Author: contagious theater LOL Some people will just cling to any tiny shred of hope no matter how wispy. Is stuff like this the only thing that keeps you from falling into the pit? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223219) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:41 AM Author: Citrine Stag Film Prof. leiter, you really need a new hobby (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223815) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:53 PM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret I think this schtick was pegged as pensive at some point. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9225166) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:25 AM Author: Aromatic voyeur regret (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222669) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:27 PM Author: Alcoholic Rough-skinned Stage Clown Wasn't there a preservation request out to YLS too? What was their response? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221717) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:39 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221747) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:41 PM Author: Alcoholic Rough-skinned Stage Clown That's what they were saying over on BLB earlier. For some reason, it won't open for me. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221755) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:54 PM Author: maniacal saffron hall justia works like crap sometimes so just save the PDF to your computer. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221988) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:48 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221791) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 7:34 PM Author: soggy sneaky criminal I thought this was the Hizzla case at first. What's the probability of the plaintiff winning? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221732) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:03 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221830) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:28 PM Author: Dashing main people (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221910) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:37 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221939) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 8:39 PM Author: Electric Insane Famous Landscape Painting Liquid Oxygen What makes you think they have pauliewalnuts? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9221945) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:54 PM Author: Citrine Stag Film and why would they have everyone else, unless he means they're all PW alternative monikers (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222549) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:20 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222460) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:22 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse There's a typo where "CGWBT" is mistakenly typed as "CWBT." I forgot to note the page number, but it's in the footnote with the cite to urbandictionary. Sloppy work, Keker. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222471) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:24 PM Author: harsh supple theatre lol nice post
btw are you rly Rational Thought? |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:28 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I have no idea who/what Rational Thought is beyond that one dude seems to spam certain threads that I post in saying I'm that. I don't know where this came about, and I think it's one psycho. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222488) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:38 PM Author: contagious theater I call bullshit. No one who posts as much as you for as long as you could possibly not have any idea who rational thought is. Absolute bullshit.
This is the most damning evidence that you are he that I've seen yet. |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:50 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I post and read threads about sports and law firm issues; pretty much nothing else. I totally block out the crap on here about posters and their personal crap. I don't care who's behind what moniker and worry about who is popular here and whatnot. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222532) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:04 AM Author: contagious theater Absolute bullshit. Everyone already knew it so this isn't exactly groundbreaking news. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222589) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:07 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse Everyone knew what? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222597) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:08 AM Author: contagious theater That you're rational thought, obviously. Dipshit. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222601) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:11 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse Are you the same guy who spams this all the time? That it's only one guy who seems infatuated with this is reason enough to dismiss this as bullshit. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222612) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:21 AM Author: contagious theater You have been posting here since AT LEAST October 2005.
There is absolutely no question that you're lying. You could not possibly post as much as you do for that long and not know about him.
Give it up. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:35 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse Have I really been posting that long? I figure I started in the first few months of 2006, but I'm not really sure.
I post a lot, but on very specific threads. I block out 95% of the crap on here. I didn't even know about these two Yale girls and all the issues until there were stickies and notices at the top of this board about the whole reputation defender thing. Why is it so hard to imagine that someone doesn't give a crap about the personalities behind whatever monikers? I just want to talk sports and law. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:30 AM Author: contagious theater You are so full of shit. I just looked at a list of thread titles you've posted in in your illustrious career. Fucking bullshit.
You're finished. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:16 PM Author: slimy flushed space (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224125) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:29 PM Author: duck-like stock car Yes, that would be Doe II's declaration (page 4, fn 2).
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:31 PM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse Another thing I noticed... no mention of Reputation Defender anywhere. Wonder why? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222492) |
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Date: January 25th, 2008 11:42 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222509) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:58 AM Author: contagious theater And? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222975) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:44 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223034) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:39 AM Author: contagious theater Fucking up your own career and flushing 150K on a worthless diploma isn't dumb? Ok. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223345) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:03 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222982) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:06 AM Author: Histrionic olive sex offender alpha You mean Heidi Iravani and Brittan Heller? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222989) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:08 AM Author: contagious theater Yes, I'm sure that they will be totally outclassed by the legal teams the Ds will come up with.
The ps will have supreme court litigators and yale professors...
The Ds will have.....hmmmm
Well, Rach has his dad, who is a small time lawyer in Shittsville PA.
And GTO has some guy no one has ever heard of in Florida (moredoughhi maybe?)
I'd say the Ps are in for a rough time. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:11 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9222995) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:25 AM Author: contagious theater No I don't think you get it.
GTO has told the board that he has files on the Ds - and the Ps will subpoena him as soon as the judge grants the motion for expedited discovery. GTO has already told the board that he has info that will out some of the Ds and he cautioned them to retain counsel.
The subpoena seeks not only records, but also depositions from Rach and GTO. Every D that they can name is outed.
Also notice that many of the sources from which they requested info said that they will give the info over when the Ps present them with the subpoena. This is standard - they don't want to hand it over without a subpoena because they want to preserve the privacy of their customers, but they will not resist if a subpoena is presented.
Anything else you'd like me to clarify for you? |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:40 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse It's clear that Ciolii won't fight any discovery. It's not clear from the papers whether Cohen will; is there any indication? (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223029) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:46 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223037) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:20 AM Author: contagious theater You didn't read very carefully. They DO have information. Don't take my word for it.
As for your second question:
The plaintiffs would be the best people to ask that question. They are proceeding with the lawsuit so evidently they find it helpful. I imagine if they decided they were not accomplishing their goals that they would end it. That has not happened. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:51 AM Author: duck-like stock car
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:54 AM Author: Coiffed Insecure French Chef (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223053) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:59 AM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223066) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:22 AM Author: contagious theater I suppose you'll just have to wait six months to find out.
Maybe GTOs info really won't help them out any Ds after all.
Maybe ak47 and ahwiab and pw won't flip after all.
Who knows, anything is possible. |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 11:46 AM Author: Citrine Stag Film flip on who? we don't all hang out in a treehouse together when we're not posting on this message board...at the most, it looks like they'll be able to ID maybe 3 people (who may or may not be the primary culprits)
everyone else is a ghost |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:18 AM Author: harsh supple theatre "And GTO has some guy no one has ever heard of in Florida (moredoughhi maybe?)"
um, are you literally fucking retarded? this is gross old man, isn't it? |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:41 AM Author: contagious theater Marc Randazza? Never heard of him. He works in a 2 man shop in Altamonte Springs, FL.
He isn't even listed in Martindale.
It names a firm that doesn't even appear to have a website:
Weston Garrou DeWitt & Walters
Should I have heard of him?
LOL |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:41 PM Author: harsh supple theatre holy shit you are functionally retarded (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223996) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:31 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I wonder if some group like EFF will step in and file an amicus brief against the expedited discovery. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223020) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 2:34 AM Author: Pearl Meetinghouse I just thought of another thing... The subpoena for Autoadmit itself is presumptively pursuant to 30(b)(6). Is Autoadmit a legal entity, or just the name of a website? I wonder if that subpoena is even valid. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223024) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 4:28 AM Author: contagious theater It's valid if Rach or GTO respond to it.
Maybe they'll decide to spend a bunch of money to fight it? That way when they prevail the Ps will have to go to the trouble of correcting it. That will really gum up the works.
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:04 PM Author: duck-like stock car (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9223855) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 12:58 PM Author: slimy flushed space (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224054) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:27 PM Author: judgmental heaven depressive titcr (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224139) |
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Date: January 26th, 2008 1:54 PM Author: claret factory reset button So, basically, the best-case scenario for the plaintiffs is that they end up sending subpoenas to ISPs for information about IP addresses. They won't have anything for them. In the meantime, they get more publicity for all of the defamatory comments. (https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=753317&forum_id=2#9224279) |
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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM Author: boyish deranged dog poop *BUMP*
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