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AK47 pwned in AutoAdmit suit

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brilliant razzmatazz theater stage
  02/27/08
AK47 = racist megaposter, right?
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
yes
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
woa oldskookposterpwned
Exhilarant white dog poop useless brakes
  02/28/08
HE IS FUCKED FOR LIFE.
Insane Racy Stage Digit Ratio
  02/27/08
false
harsh lime pisswyrm native
  02/27/08
SORRY AK47. YOU ARE FUCKED.
Insane Racy Stage Digit Ratio
  02/27/08
Whitepride will be next. It's karma.
big-titted patrolman casino
  02/28/08
I can't wait until Whitepride gets his.
Plum buck-toothed set
  03/12/08
wtf. what did he say that caused him to be sued?
offensive persian
  02/27/08
read the link dooder
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
ty
offensive persian
  02/27/08
For what it's worth, that IP address traces back to Vallejo,...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
lots of blacks there?
know-it-all electric resort
  02/27/08
most definitely
vigorous sneaky criminal reading party
  02/27/08
The racial makeup of the city was 30.97% White, 30.69% Afric...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
AK47 is a flip?
Charcoal free-loading corn cake
  02/27/08
aznaznazn?
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
Melky?
Gay talented temple rigor
  02/27/08
lulz
ultramarine marvelous partner
  02/27/08
I was just about to post that.
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
lmfao, fucking vallejo, that's awesome. guess he wasn't a f...
ultramarine marvelous partner
  02/27/08
link? I kind of feel sorry for him. But his posts were r...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Host name: adsl-75-18-198-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net. IP a...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
wow interesting. thank you.
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
AUTHOR: Chauncey EMAIL: IP: 75.18.198.98 URL: DATE: 07...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
it gets better: Google the IP and this pops up: http:/...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
you feel sorry for him?
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
I guess not. I mean. He's a jerk. But I think it's intere...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Fuck that. It's not like he made a relatively tame comment ...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
That comment was taken out of context--seriously, he was not...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
link? Considering the poster, I'm having a hard time imag...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
This is thread he was named a D for: http://xoxohth.com/t...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
Lolz. Gimmie a break. The intention is clear. I'm not a...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
You think it is clear? One of the women's names is not a D. ...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
The other name is another girl who has been harassed for yea...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
Oh come on.
Thirsty Spot Yarmulke
  02/27/08
do you think he was just trying to be funny though? not con...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
hell no. he deserves to be outed and sued. most of the defen...
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
Why do you feel sorry for him? He is such a coward for not b...
big-titted patrolman casino
  02/28/08
Vallejo, CA is the home of white trash. Pretty ghetto area -...
big-titted patrolman casino
  02/28/08
how did the Does get his IP address? rach sold out?
vigorous sneaky criminal reading party
  02/27/08
Presumably. It looks as though the only statement at issue ...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
What does it say? My computer blocks the link.
Supple citrine goyim
  02/27/08
is that for real? i don't think you have a constitutional...
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
It's a murky area. Here's a pretty good overview: http:/...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
i'm not going to read all that now. it just seems like a to...
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
It "seems like a tough sell" to a poster who can't...
Bat-shit-crazy rehab indirect expression
  02/27/08
lulz, tyft
pearly swashbuckling deer antler
  02/27/08
181
Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal
  02/27/08
He is going to get a seat on the Supreme Court with that leg...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
This is by far the biggest lulz to come out of the lawsuit t...
cerebral location
  02/27/08
Site is blocked here. What does the biglaw board link say? ...
Apoplectic idea he suggested
  02/27/08
Author: Daily Docket [102] () Posted: 02/27/08 03:43 PM Fl...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
Posted thus far
cerebral location
  02/27/08
JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH PL...
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
I dont think you understand the hilarity: Date: November ...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
ROFL
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
fucking THANK YOU
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
Lulz, NYU grads. Stick to basketball, whokebe!
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
AK47 = whokebe? i mean, i wouldn't be surprised but he stil...
excitant pearl mediation lodge
  02/27/08
whokebe went to Stern undergrad, everybody knows that.
Garnet exciting jewess
  02/27/08
whokebe would never live in vallejo. hth.
ultramarine marvelous partner
  02/27/08
Is the lawsuit worth it, for this alone? Possibly.
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
oh yes it is
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
TITCR. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the Does trace b...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
Was AK47 named in the original filing?
Apoplectic idea he suggested
  02/27/08
i don't think so. i think he was added later.
Azure Lay Idiot
  02/27/08
I think he was added in the amended complaint, after he made...
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
yeah. seriously what a faggot. he knows there's litigation p...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Yeah. I felt pretty bad for AHWIAB but I think this puts me ...
cerebral location
  02/27/08
Will he be disbarred?
Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead
  02/27/08
If he wrote that brief, I doubt he is an attorney; but if he...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
pretty sure he's transactional i guess he doesnt write me...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Has anyone confirmed this? Haven't they made up lawsuit rela...
blue zippy mad-dog skullcap step-uncle's house
  02/27/08
So can we assume AK47 works in SF and takes the ferry to wor...
ultramarine marvelous partner
  02/27/08
Yes, and he said he was from the Bay Area.
Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead
  02/27/08
Why the hell would he live in Vallejo? It always sounded lik...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
i just looked up my ip address. it shows a nearby city, but...
vigorous sneaky criminal reading party
  02/27/08
Correct. This traces back to the ISP, not to the specific a...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
OIC
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
i think he has a good argument (so far as i have read on blb...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/27/08
"This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what ...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
I guess this proves he might be AZN.
Apoplectic idea he suggested
  02/27/08
LOL
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Rape is silly!!!
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
Silly statement jurisprudence is quite a legal thicket indee...
cerebral location
  02/27/08
making speak is another undeniably murky area of law.
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
1 billion. This is the second time you've made me laugh ...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
yw, yw
cerebral location
  02/27/08
Do a "control-f" on that page for silly. It's awe...
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
well it seems like it could be edited over a few times, but ...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/27/08
Obama is right. This really is SILLY SEASON.
bisexual copper skinny woman codepig
  02/27/08
nice callback!
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
fake, lame attempt to drive traffic to that board. No one re...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
hi ak47!
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
stupid, it's obviously fake
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
BLB scopes AA on the lawsuit all the time: http://www.big...
bisexual copper skinny woman codepig
  02/27/08
who reads that board? it gets like 10 hits per day. Some...
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
You're right, someone spent 3 days researching and preparing...
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
Owned.
cheese-eating boltzmann tanning salon
  02/27/08
Damn you. I just spit my coke all over my laptop. Gumshoe ...
Apoplectic idea he suggested
  02/27/08
So he apparently either goes to Hastings, San Fran, Golden G...
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
Trustafarian strikes again?
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
I think that dood went to Davis
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
he went to boalt
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
Boalt.
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
I'm pretty sure he graduated. He was very active in Bar exam...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
Hastings. http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=269...
brilliant razzmatazz theater stage
  03/04/08
He was pretty stupid to respond in the way he did. He should...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
This seems exactly wrong.
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
dooder I used to work for an ISP and I can tell you that wou...
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
it has worked in RIAA suits dood. this is what has caus...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
link? ppl always tried to claim our records were wrong an...
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
plenty of it here http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot....
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
nah, you're just confusing lame legal arguments with legal p...
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
please explain to me then how grandmothers who have never he...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
I believe the case you're referring to was a situation in wh...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
"the case" ?? It has happened a lot more than once
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
Link? I've only heard one such claim made before and tend to...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
titcr
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
2005 http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6038.cfm 2003 ...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
these are cases where the ISP obviously made an error, and i...
maroon dragon
  02/29/08
because they own the account from which the alleged infringe...
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
Also, look at the recent motion to quash that was filed in o...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
Question @ Lamronba: What about wireless internet connectio...
sable stubborn plaza
  02/27/08
??
sable stubborn plaza
  02/27/08
Plausible explanation. To tell the difference I think they'd...
Frozen Generalized Bond
  02/27/08
this is a bit of a gray area. as a matter of our company pol...
maroon dragon
  02/28/08
what a completely inane idea. and have you ever heard of ...
Dashing twinkling uncleanness trailer park
  02/27/08
Also, AK47, we know you're reading this thread. PWNED
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
lol
nyuug
  02/27/08
wgwag
offensive persian
  02/27/08
Date: November 10th, 2007 1:25 AM Author: AK47 IIED is a...
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
This really should have been incorporated in his brief.
cerebral location
  02/27/08
180 again. On fire today
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
lulz
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
I think that's going to be in the order the judge enters.
french wonderful new version church building
  02/27/08
Odds AK47 dropped the N-bomb in his brief?
Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead
  02/27/08
His outting will be the biggest in xo history it seems. Hav...
crystalline shaky degenerate trump supporter
  02/27/08
The only other one that would be as legendary is pauliewalnu...
Titillating Principal's Office
  02/27/08
Nice try... You are sooooooo getting sued and outted.
Diverse internal respiration
  02/27/08
I don't see anything about this on PACER. Where did they get...
blue zippy mad-dog skullcap step-uncle's house
  02/27/08
ha the ali g ice cream gloves defense (internet search for i...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/27/08
nice Ali G reference
Territorial Autistic French Chef Home
  02/27/08
Can someone explain in laymen's terms what happened here? I'...
geriatric vermilion brunch antidepressant drug
  02/27/08
does subpoena AT&T for IP address related to AK47 AK4...
Lascivious Cerise Area
  02/27/08
"legal jargon"? You don't what the words "...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
those words constitute legal jargon dooder.
Awkward market
  02/27/08
GTO sold him out: "Plaintiffs are attempting to inti...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/27/08
What would it take to get GTO to sell out JBD?
tantric foreskin
  02/27/08
Some googling and investigating has led me to this conclusio...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
lol oh snap
nyuug
  02/27/08
LOL. Damn, AK47 is a true psycho
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
He appears to hold himself out on the blackprof site as a su...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
one of the rare black jews?
Well-lubricated passionate heaven milk
  02/27/08
there was a gay black jew guy on the Real World once. He sl...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
wowzer!
maroon dragon
  02/27/08
i used to think the racism was schtick. now i doubt it.
geriatric vermilion brunch antidepressant drug
  02/27/08
Same here. It's truly frightening. I also used to be convi...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
At some point, even if it's meant to be schtick, the relentl...
cerebral location
  02/27/08
now maybe people will believe me when I say hizzla is real a...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
NOW THIS IS PRICELESS! OP: getting sued by RIAA/MPAA for ...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
Welcome to last month. http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.ph...
Cream locale azn
  02/27/08
Yes, but we now know it is Ak47. This was not known last mo...
Bistre deep forum
  02/27/08
One of those CA posts that got deleted called this one.
Irradiated effete piazza
  02/28/08
The real question is, why did the faggots at BLB notice the ...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/27/08
Because no one on XO is an actual attorney or has access to ...
brilliant razzmatazz theater stage
  02/27/08
Anyone can get access to PACER. I set up an account a few we...
Arousing submissive toaster police squad
  02/27/08
Because someone over there impulsively checks justia?
Razzle-dazzle lemon site
  02/27/08
It's not on justia.
frum institution
  02/27/08
BLB posters are former XOXO regulars who got sick of all the...
cheese-eating boltzmann tanning salon
  02/27/08
WAIT, HOW'D THEY GET HIS IP? I thought there were no IP log...
odious learning disabled feces
  02/27/08
according to the AK47 brief, GTO told plaintiffs. that does...
Stimulating Doobsian University Brethren
  02/27/08
GTO somehow had knowledge of his IP address and remembered i...
Frozen Generalized Bond
  02/27/08
180.
harsh lime pisswyrm native
  02/27/08
AK47 was a well known spammer, Rach/GTO logged spammer IPs t...
Territorial Autistic French Chef Home
  02/27/08
This is actually a very good point. If it turns out that nob...
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...
vigorous sneaky criminal reading party
  02/27/08
"Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 200...
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  02/27/08
Whether he deserves it or not, if GTO sold him out, GTO is a...
costumed overrated stead potus
  02/27/08
dood, GTO lost his fucking legal career due to this shit. If...
Primrose immigrant theater
  02/27/08
The only thing left the fucker has is his dignity. His whol...
costumed overrated stead potus
  02/27/08
titcr. don't forget his holier-than-thou attitude when he w...
Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal
  02/27/08
what would he gain at this point from helping any party?
Ocher Tattoo
  02/27/08
do you also believe "it's all about respect" and &...
Dashing twinkling uncleanness trailer park
  02/27/08
no, wtf are you talking about?
costumed overrated stead potus
  02/27/08
lol at you for thinking that it's more dignified for him to ...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/27/08
I am not a lawyer. Explain to me why I can't express my desi...
bespoke death wish hairy legs
  02/27/08
cuz when you do it on a message board that the individuals' ...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/27/08
thanks mang. you're right, I should be aware of the core pri...
bespoke death wish hairy legs
  02/28/08
i don't see what's off. given the context (a board campaign ...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
There were some posts and actions that I believe constitute ...
180 maize field water buffalo
  02/28/08
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/connect...
Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal
  02/27/08
TYTYTYTY
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
Wow. Unbelievable. There are some solid legal points in th...
Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode
  02/28/08
"But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain t...
frum institution
  02/28/08
i should have said "almost certain to lead a judge to l...
Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode
  02/28/08
The comment is so crude that it may almost certainly "l...
frum institution
  02/28/08
you seem not to realize how a normal IRL person reads a line...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
You seem to not realize that there are literally millions of...
frum institution
  02/28/08
theres assloads of circumstantial evidence. and this is a su...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
We shall see. I look forward to reading the Opposition.
frum institution
  02/28/08
'raped' in that context means 'I hope bad things happen to' ...
180 maize field water buffalo
  02/28/08
I appreciated smart-ass writing when I was clerking.
sinister demanding nursing home
  02/28/08
did you read it? i'd argue there's a difference between sma...
Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode
  02/28/08
Almost all pro per/pro se papers are whiny, angry, and rambl...
frum institution
  02/28/08
that would be funny if he put his real name in the return ad...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/28/08
Wow, this may be the highlight of the brief: "The fa...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
Yeah, I really would have left out that part. He's basicall...
frum institution
  02/28/08
after the original suit was filed, did GTO have the duty not...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/28/08
wow, i can't believe KVN/YLS are enlisted to engage this sor...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
That has to be the best quote from the entire response. Sec...
Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode
  02/28/08
jesus christ that is horrible reasoning
Territorial Autistic French Chef Home
  02/28/08
There's probably an argument in there somewhere.
tantric foreskin
  02/28/08
I think it's decent, ignoring the police/counselor crap part...
180 maize field water buffalo
  02/28/08
lol.. cops and crisis counselors may describe sexual violen...
Aromatic dilemma depressive
  02/28/08
his argument focuses on the word "description" but...
Beady-eyed Yellow Puppy Love Of Her Life
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holy shit. the greatest moment in the history of this long ...
Fluffy thriller bbw regret
  02/28/08
titcr. this is like the barzini pwnage only with way more sc...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
Damn, I almost forgot about the barzini pwnage. I wonder wh...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
i'm not one of the D's, obviously, but this kind of made me ...
Fluffy thriller bbw regret
  02/28/08
what was the barzini pwnage? I have been posting here for 3...
Nudist puce parlor
  02/28/08
IIRC: posted here about a girl he had a date with or somethi...
Hideous olive office
  02/28/08
Highlight of the thread in retrospect: Date: April 13th, ...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
lol good find
Hideous olive office
  02/28/08
I personally hate AK47 and think 99% of this response is hyp...
Aromatic dilemma depressive
  02/28/08
I am generally sympathetic to the Does and I agree.
frum institution
  02/28/08
This is true, but the implication was plenty clear to the in...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
I think after the Does were initially "outted", th...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
This doesn't make any sense. If there's no specific (or impl...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
Once PaulieWalnuts plastered this public message board with ...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
psa: you can't invent legal definitions whenever you feel li...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
For all you know, I am a Supreme Court Justice and have ever...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
go to bed clarence, you're up way too late
Bright Federal Theatre
  02/28/08
I can't get enough of this black on white porn on the net br...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
That's not nearly enough to make them public figures. They ...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
dont see any defamation on AK's part. Maybe IIED, but not d...
Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal
  02/28/08
Yeah, you're right. Which makes the entire public figure/act...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
So there's no higher intent threshold for public figures whe...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
If I recall correctly, the actual malice standard only appli...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
Thanks for clearing that up for me
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
i don't know if there is such a 2-part test...that jerry fal...
honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit
  02/28/08
I think ol' AK wins on the merits, but not so sure about qua...
Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal
  02/28/08
This is probably right. If he can't quash the subpoena, you...
Bistre deep forum
  02/28/08
to become an involuntary public figure, you have to act/fail...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
Attending the number one ranked law school in the country an...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
you don't know what you're talking about, you should just dr...
Bat Shit Crazy National
  02/28/08
Pardon me if I don't think going to Yale Law School isn't ex...
Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour
  02/28/08
Lol. The legal definition of a private figure doesn't requi...
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Date: February 27th, 2008 3:58 PM
Author: brilliant razzmatazz theater stage

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559&x=3

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396835)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

AK47 = racist megaposter, right?



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396847)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

yes

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396875)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:38 AM
Author: Exhilarant white dog poop useless brakes

woa

oldskookposterpwned

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399710)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:00 PM
Author: Insane Racy Stage Digit Ratio

HE IS FUCKED FOR LIFE.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396841)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: harsh lime pisswyrm native

false

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396844)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: Insane Racy Stage Digit Ratio

SORRY AK47. YOU ARE FUCKED.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396856)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 7:28 PM
Author: big-titted patrolman casino

Whitepride will be next. It's karma.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402535)



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Date: March 12th, 2008 1:46 AM
Author: Plum buck-toothed set

I can't wait until Whitepride gets his.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466328)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:01 PM
Author: offensive persian

wtf.

what did he say that caused him to be sued?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396843)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: maroon dragon

read the link dooder

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396853)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: offensive persian

ty

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396860)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:02 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

For what it's worth, that IP address traces back to Vallejo, Calif.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396854)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: know-it-all electric resort

lots of blacks there?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396861)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: vigorous sneaky criminal reading party

most definitely

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396864)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

The racial makeup of the city was 30.97% White, 30.69% African American, 0.66% Native American, 19.16% Asian, 1.09% Pacific Islander, 7.88% from other races, and 6.56% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 19.92% of the population.

Vallejo has the third highest percentage of Filipino Americans in the United States mainland, behind the nearby cities of Daly City and Hercules.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396868)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: Charcoal free-loading corn cake

AK47 is a flip?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396873)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:14 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

aznaznazn?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396910)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Gay talented temple rigor

Melky?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396928)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: ultramarine marvelous partner

lulz

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396869)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:04 PM
Author: maroon dragon

I was just about to post that.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396863)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:05 PM
Author: ultramarine marvelous partner

lmfao, fucking vallejo, that's awesome.

guess he wasn't a fan of the hyphy movement?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396867)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

link?

I kind of feel sorry for him. But his posts were ridiculously offensive.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396877)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Host name: adsl-75-18-198-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net.

IP address: 75.18.198.98

Location: Vallejo, CA, UNITED STATES

You can lookup any IP at this site: http://www.hostip.info

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396884)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:11 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

wow interesting. thank you.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396893)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:36 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397030)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

AUTHOR: Chauncey

EMAIL:

IP: 75.18.198.98

URL:

DATE: 07/20/2007 12:09:51 AM

falcons suck

Could be a dynamic IP though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397038)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:38 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397039)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

it gets better:

Google the IP and this pops up:

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397049)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

you feel sorry for him?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396889)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:25 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

I guess not. I mean. He's a jerk. But I think it's interesting that he's going to get outted for something totally unrelated to his racist antics here. So I guess I feel sorry for him in that sense. But I don't feel sorry for him as a person.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396963)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:27 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Fuck that. It's not like he made a relatively tame comment about the plaintiffs (think AHWIAB). He advocated raping them. This guy deserves all the embarrassment and punishment he is going to get.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396977)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

That comment was taken out of context--seriously, he was not one of the people harrassing the does

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396984)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

link?

Considering the poster, I'm having a hard time imagining a context where that would be an innocent statement.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396991)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

This is thread he was named a D for:

/thread.php?thread_id=646214&mc=2&forum_id=2

It's not even clear he was indicating either of the D's (only one of them is named in the subject line and her name is misspelled)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397045)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:43 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Lolz. Gimmie a break. The intention is clear.

I'm not arguing that what he said is legally actionable. It is morally reprehensible though, and I have no sympathy for him.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397064)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:45 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

You think it is clear? One of the women's names is not a D. I think it was just one of the many among the thousands of bizarre posts he made.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397069)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:49 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

The other name is another girl who has been harassed for years on here for no good reason.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397088)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 8:27 PM
Author: Thirsty Spot Yarmulke

Oh come on.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398120)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:40 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

do you think he was just trying to be funny though? not condoning it at all.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397044)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

hell no. he deserves to be outed and sued. most of the defendant's do

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396989)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 7:32 PM
Author: big-titted patrolman casino

Why do you feel sorry for him? He is such a coward for not being open and upfront about his beliefs in public and just posting anonymously. He's also a repugnant, hateful, obsessive, dimwit.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402559)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 7:29 PM
Author: big-titted patrolman casino

Vallejo, CA is the home of white trash. Pretty ghetto area - the type of place that would breed skinheads, KKK members, etc. -> people with extremely low levels of education.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402542)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: vigorous sneaky criminal reading party

how did the Does get his IP address? rach sold out?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396871)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Presumably. It looks as though the only statement at issue was an xoxo post. The only way to get that IP is through site logs.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396878)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:06 PM
Author: Supple citrine goyim

What does it say? My computer blocks the link.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396872)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:07 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

is that for real?

i don't think you have a constitutional right to speak anonymously.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396880)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

It's a murky area.

Here's a pretty good overview:

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/legal-protections-anonymous-speech

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396891)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

i'm not going to read all that now. it just seems like a tough sell

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396927)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy rehab indirect expression

It "seems like a tough sell" to a poster who can't be bothered to read a googled web site synopsis of the area of law. Thanks for your analysis here.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397097)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 6:12 PM
Author: pearly swashbuckling deer antler

lulz, tyft

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397521)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 6:35 PM
Author: Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal

181

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397637)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

He is going to get a seat on the Supreme Court with that legal acumen!

I would assume that most people who submit briefs to the court at least spell "plaintiffs" right.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396881)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:08 PM
Author: cerebral location

This is by far the biggest lulz to come out of the lawsuit thus far.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396883)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:11 PM
Author: Apoplectic idea he suggested

Site is blocked here. What does the biglaw board link say?

Can you paste it in.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396897)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

Author: Daily Docket [102] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 03:43 PM

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Main Document

"Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiff's subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously."

Of note, he seeks to limit access to IP address 75.18.198.98.

Portions of it reads like, well, a first year brief? "urges this court to help Plainfitts trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously."

"neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm"

Arguments:

A. The First Amendment protects John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously.

B. To protect qualified privilege, the court should require notice to defendants, review of the complaint, and presentation of argument and evidence before issuing a subpoena to an anonymous defendant.

C. Plaintiffs cannot overcome John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously because plaintiffs cannot demonstrate they have viable claims against John Doe 21.

D. The court must review John Doe 21's statement to determine whether it actionable.

E. Plaintiffs are not able to succeed on their intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress claims.

F. Plaintiff has not met the heightened standard required by the First Amendment.

G. The court must balance the harm of disclosure against its value.

H. Plaintiffs are using this subpoena, not for legitimate discovery purposes, but rather to intimidate John Doe 21 in the same manner that they intimidated other defendants in this case.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396907)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:15 PM
Author: cerebral location
Subject: Posted thus far

JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH

PLAINTIFF'S SUBPOENA

Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiffs' subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously.

INTRODUCTION

Plaintiffs Doe I's and Doe II's February 15,2008 Subpoena ordering AT&T Inc. ("AT&T") to produce information relating to the identity of John Doe 21, a.k.a AK47, urges this court to help Plaintiffs trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously. This subpoena, Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint and Ex Parte Motion for Expedited Discovery have heretofore gone unopposed by Defendants, like John Doe, who were neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket

presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm to uncover the identities of certain persons who posted unsavory but legally innocuous comments concerning Plaintiffs on an Internet website. Although the Amended Complaint and Motion For Expedited

Discovery, as they relate to John Doe 21, would not withstand even the most cursory challenge, it is extremely important that this Court protect the First Amendment and Due Process rights of John Doe 21 and the other anonymous Defendants drawn into this litigation. Though silly, the statement at issue here, i.e., "Women named Jill and [Doe II's equally common first name] should be raped,"

constitutes constitutionally protected speech. The Subpoena should be quashed.

BACKGROUND

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint, which includes allegations ranging from intentional infliction of emotional distress and false light, Amended Complaint ("Complaint") at ~~ 62-83, appears to center on claims of defamation and copyright infringement. Most of the named Defendants, including John Doe 21, are anonymous, appear to have no relationship to each other, do not appear to know Plaintiffs, and are identified only by their screen names. John Doe 21 has never met Plaintiffs, nor does he reside in Connecticut.

Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007, in front of the Honorable Judge Christopher Droney of the Connecticut District Court for the District of Connecticut, alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and near absolute unreliability as a source of useful information, had posted comments that caused Plaintiffs a smorgasbord of harms, including causing one plaintiff to fail to receive job offers from top-tier law firms. Complaint at 1. After numerous extension requests, see Motions for Extension of Time (totaling 4), Plaintiffs on November 8, 2007, filed an Amended Complaint, dropping several Defendants and naming others, including John Doe 21. Amended Complaint at 1. Plaintiffs continued to file various motions which went unopposed by apparently unaware Defendants (see First MOTION for Extension of Time until July 7, 2008 to Modify the Scheduling Order; Plaintiffs' Motion for Expedited Discovery, Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery), and sought and were granted leave to issue subpoenas to Internet service providers in order to locate and identify the anonymous Defendants, presumably for the purposes of drawing the actual identities of Defendants into this litigation and attributing to Defendants comments posted anonymously on Autoadmit. One such subpoena reached John Doe 21. The Subpoena was addressed to AT&T, Inc., an Internet service provider, and demanded the identity of the person who posted comments presumably traceable to the IP address 75.18.198.98. See Exhibit 1.

The Subpoena, received by John Doe 21 on or around the 18 of February 2008, originally sought and granted in Connecticut District Court, was apparently filed and issued from the United States District Court for the Central District of California. Exhibit 1. The Subpoena states that John Doe 21 has 10 days in which to prepare a motion to quash, a protective order or other motion to prevent AT&T from divulging information pertaining to his identity to Plaintiffs. This 10 day period was negotiated by Plaintiffs attorneys and AT&T. See Exhibit 1, Subpoena to AT&T at 1. Apparently, 10 days is enough time for John Doe 21 to prepare a motion concerning an area of law with which he has never dealt and concerning a multitude of federal procedural issues that only experienced litigators such as Plaintiffs' attorneys are able to navigate. On the other hand, Plaintiffs, by seeking time extension after extension, have carefully planned their strategy over a period of nearly 10 months. It has therefore taken Plaintiffs, with the aid of a cadre of competent attorneys, 10 months to craft their case, yet Plaintiffs think it appropriate to give John Doe 21 ten days to craft his.

Furthermore, the Subpoena fails to mention John Doe 21's pseudonymous identity, "AK47," fails to identify the specific court division within the Central District of California (the Central District of California contains four separate court divisions) that issued the Subpoena, and fails to otherwise identify the purpose for its issuance. Nor, to John Doe 21's knowledge, do any of Plaintiffs' moving documents in the Connecticut litigation contain any evidence linking the IP address sought to any comment posted on Autoadmit. The only piece of information related to this case mentioned in the Subpoena is John Doe 21's IP address, an address presumably linked to a comment that Plaintiffs found objectionable. Yet, this bare bones document has the potential to eviscerate John Doe 21's constitutionally guaranteed right to speak anonymously.

SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously. Few courts have considered this question, but it is becoming a crucial one, particularly in light of the increasing number of cases where those who have been criticized on the Internet seek to use the machinery of the courts to unmask, intimidate and silence their online critics. Indeed, as a California District Court recently remarked, "[p]eople who have committed no wrong should be able to participate online without fear that someone who wishes to harass or embarrass them can file a frivolous lawsuit and thereby gain the power of the court's order to discover their identities." Columbia Ins. Co. v. seescandy.com, 185 F.R.D. 573,578 (N.D. Cal. 1999) (considering the discovery standards applicable to the unveiling of a defendant's identity in a domain name/trademark matter).

In light of the significant privacy and free speech issues involved in unveiling the identities of anonymous speakers, a balancing test has been developed to decide whether to require the identification of anonymous speakers in litigation. Under that test, the Court will balance the harm to John Doe 21 against the Plaintiffs' need for discovery to pursue their claim. On the facts of this case, there can be no doubt that John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously should prevail.

A. THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS JOHN DOE 21'S RIGHT TO SPEAK ANONYMOUSLY

It hardly bears mention that the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were designed by citizens who publicly debated these documents' virtues anonymously (or pseudonymously) in letters published later as the Federalist Papers. The First and Fourth Amendments are based "at least in part on the colonists' experience with the sedition laws of England which forbade anonymous writing and which allowed warrantless invasion of any home to root out the true identity of anonymous authors." Nelson B. Lasson, The History and Development of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, 37-50 (1937). The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed this right. Buckley v. American Constitutional Law Found. Inc., 525 U.S. 182, 197-200 (1999); McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n., 514 U.S. 334 (1995); Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960). These cases signify the important role of anonymous speech in the United States' history.

The Supreme Court unequivocally held in Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. at 870, that speech on the Internet is entitled to the full spectrum of First Amendment protections. Observing that the World Wide Web is a medium for public argument and discussion that reaches more people than any other known medium, the Court stated that "content on the Internet is as diverse as human thought." Reno, 521 U.S. at 870

In the online realm, numerous cases have upheld the constitutional right to speak anonymously on the Internet. ACLU v. Johnson, 4 F. Supp. 2d 1029, 1033 (D.N.M. 1998) aff'd, 194 F.3d 1149 (10th Cir. 1999); ACLU of Georgia, 977 F. Supp. at 1232-33; see also ApolloMEDIA Corp. v. Reno, 526 U.S. 1061 (1999), aff'g 19 F. Supp. 2d 1081 (N.D. Cal. 1998) (protecting anonymous speakers on web site at www.annoy.com, a site "created and designed to annoy" legislators through anonymous communications). The mechanics of the Internet, however, provides numerous ways to track the statements of anonymous speakers, prompting many commentators to argue that the law ought to provide special protections for Internet anonymity. See, e.g., David G. Post, Pooling Intellectual Capital: Thoughts of Anonymity, Pseudonymity, and Limited Liability in Cyberspace, 1996 U. Chi. Legal F. 139; Lee Tien, Innovation and the Information Environment: Who's Afraid of Anonymous Speech? McIntyre and the Internet, 75 Or. L. Rev. 117 (1996).

Because the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously, a subpoena for anonymous speakers' names and addresses is subject to a qualified privilege. And, as in other cases in which litigants seek privileged information, courts must consider the privilege before authorizing discovery. See Sony Music Entmn't v. Does, 326 F.Supp.2d 556,565 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) ("Against the backdrop of First Amendment protection for anonymous speech, courts have held that civil subpoenas seeking information regarding anonymous individuals raise First Amendment concerns.").

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396914)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:16 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

JOHN DOE 21's MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO QUASH

PLAINTIFF'S SUBPOENA

Pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45(c) and applicable local rules, John Doe 21 moves to quash Plaintiffs' third party subpoena to AT&T, Inc. for information pertaining to his identity. John Doe 21, referred to in the Amended Complaint as Internet pseudonym "AK47," asks this Court to quash Plaintiffs' subpoena because the Subpoena violates his First Amendment right to speak anonymously.

INTRODUCTION

Plaintiffs Doe I's and Doe II's February 15,2008 Subpoena ordering AT&T Inc. ("AT&T") to produce information relating to the identity of John Doe 21, a.k.a AK47, urges this court to help Plaintiffs trample upon John Doe's constitutionally protected right to speak anonymously. This subpoena, Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint and Ex Parte Motion for Expedited Discovery have heretofore gone unopposed by Defendants, like John Doe, who were neither properly noticed of the suit nor have the resources or legal know-how to wade through the legal and procedural thicket

presented by Plaintiffs, two Yale law students who have enlisted an elite law firm to uncover the identities of certain persons who posted unsavory but legally innocuous comments concerning Plaintiffs on an Internet website. Although the Amended Complaint and Motion For Expedited

Discovery, as they relate to John Doe 21, would not withstand even the most cursory challenge, it is extremely important that this Court protect the First Amendment and Due Process rights of John Doe 21 and the other anonymous Defendants drawn into this litigation. Though silly, the statement at issue here, i.e., "Women named Jill and [Doe II's equally common first name] should be raped,"

constitutes constitutionally protected speech. The Subpoena should be quashed.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11568

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:04 PM

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BACKGROUND

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint, which includes allegations ranging from intentional infliction of emotional distress and false light, Amended Complaint ("Complaint") at ~~ 62-83, appears to center on claims of defamation and copyright infringement. Most of the named Defendants, including John Doe 21, are anonymous, appear to have no relationship to each other, do not appear to know Plaintiffs, and are identified only by their screen names. John Doe 21 has never met Plaintiffs, nor does he reside in Connecticut.

Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007, in front of the Honorable Judge Christopher Droney of the Connecticut District Court for the District of Connecticut, alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and near absolute unreliability as a source of useful information, had posted comments that caused Plaintiffs a smorgasbord of harms, including causing one plaintiff to fail to receive job offers from top-tier law firms. Complaint at 1. After numerous extension requests, see Motions for Extension of Time (totaling 4), Plaintiffs on November 8, 2007, filed an Amended Complaint, dropping several Defendants and naming others, including John Doe 21. Amended Complaint at 1. Plaintiffs continued to file various motions which went unopposed by apparently unaware Defendants (see First MOTION for Extension of Time until July 7, 2008 to Modify the Scheduling Order; Plaintiffs' Motion for Expedited Discovery, Memorandum in Support Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery), and sought and were granted leave to issue subpoenas to Internet service providers in order to locate and identify the anonymous Defendants, presumably for the purposes of drawing the actual identities of Defendants into this litigation and attributing to Defendants comments posted anonymously on Autoadmit. One such subpoena reached John Doe 21. The Subpoena was addressed to AT&T, Inc., an Internet service provider, and demanded the identity of the person who posted comments presumably traceable to the IP address 75.18.198.98. See Exhibit 1.

The Subpoena, received by John Doe 21 on or around the 18 of February 2008, originally sought and granted in Connecticut District Court, was apparently filed and issued from the United States District Court for the Central District of California. Exhibit 1. The Subpoena states that John Doe 21 has 10 days in which to prepare a motion to quash, a protective order or other motion to prevent AT&T from divulging information pertaining to his identity to Plaintiffs. This 10 day period was negotiated by Plaintiffs attorneys and AT&T. See Exhibit 1, Subpoena to AT&T at 1. Apparently, 10 days is enough time for John Doe 21 to prepare a motion concerning an area of law with which he has never dealt and concerning a multitude of federal procedural issues that only experienced litigators such as Plaintiffs' attorneys are able to navigate. On the other hand, Plaintiffs, by seeking time extension after extension, have carefully planned their strategy over a period of nearly 10 months. It has therefore taken Plaintiffs, with the aid of a cadre of competent attorneys, 10 months to craft their case, yet Plaintiffs think it appropriate to give John Doe 21 ten days to craft his.

Furthermore, the Subpoena fails to mention John Doe 21's pseudonymous identity, "AK47," fails to identify the specific court division within the Central District of California (the Central District of California contains four separate court divisions) that issued the Subpoena, and fails to otherwise identify the purpose for its issuance. Nor, to John Doe 21's knowledge, do any of Plaintiffs' moving documents in the Connecticut litigation contain any evidence linking the IP address sought to any comment posted on Autoadmit. The only piece of information related to this case mentioned in the Subpoena is John Doe 21's IP address, an address presumably linked to a comment that Plaintiffs found objectionable. Yet, this bare bones document has the potential to eviscerate John Doe 21's constitutionally guaranteed right to speak anonymously.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11569

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:07 PM

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SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously. Few courts have considered this question, but it is becoming a crucial one, particularly in light of the increasing number of cases where those who have been criticized on the Internet seek to use the machinery of the courts to unmask, intimidate and silence their online critics. Indeed, as a California District Court recently remarked, "[p]eople who have committed no wrong should be able to participate online without fear that someone who wishes to harass or embarrass them can file a frivolous lawsuit and thereby gain the power of the court's order to discover their identities." Columbia Ins. Co. v. seescandy.com, 185 F.R.D. 573,578 (N.D. Cal. 1999) (considering the discovery standards applicable to the unveiling of a defendant's identity in a domain name/trademark matter).

In light of the significant privacy and free speech issues involved in unveiling the identities of anonymous speakers, a balancing test has been developed to decide whether to require the identification of anonymous speakers in litigation. Under that test, the Court will balance the harm to John Doe 21 against the Plaintiffs' need for discovery to pursue their claim. On the facts of this case, there can be no doubt that John Doe 21's right to speak anonymously should prevail.

Link: http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=11559#11570

Author: Daily Docket [107] ()

Posted: 02/27/08 04:10 PM

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A. THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS JOHN DOE 21'S RIGHT TO SPEAK ANONYMOUSLY

It hardly bears mention that the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were designed by citizens who publicly debated these documents' virtues anonymously (or pseudonymously) in letters published later as the Federalist Papers. The First and Fourth Amendments are based "at least in part on the colonists' experience with the sedition laws of England which forbade anonymous writing and which allowed warrantless invasion of any home to root out the true identity of anonymous authors." Nelson B. Lasson, The History and Development of the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, 37-50 (1937). The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed this right. Buckley v. American Constitutional Law Found. Inc., 525 U.S. 182, 197-200 (1999); McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n., 514 U.S. 334 (1995); Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960). These cases signify the important role of anonymous speech in the United States' history.

The Supreme Court unequivocally held in Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. at 870, that speech on the Internet is entitled to the full spectrum of First Amendment protections. Observing that the World Wide Web is a medium for public argument and discussion that reaches more people than any other known medium, the Court stated that "content on the Internet is as diverse as human thought." Reno, 521 U.S. at 870

In the online realm, numerous cases have upheld the constitutional right to speak anonymously on the Internet. ACLU v. Johnson, 4 F. Supp. 2d 1029, 1033 (D.N.M. 1998) aff'd, 194 F.3d 1149 (10th Cir. 1999); ACLU of Georgia, 977 F. Supp. at 1232-33; see also ApolloMEDIA Corp. v. Reno, 526 U.S. 1061 (1999), aff'g 19 F. Supp. 2d 1081 (N.D. Cal. 1998) (protecting anonymous speakers on web site at www.annoy.com, a site "created and designed to annoy" legislators through anonymous communications). The mechanics of the Internet, however, provides numerous ways to track the statements of anonymous speakers, prompting many commentators to argue that the law ought to provide special protections for Internet anonymity. See, e.g., David G. Post, Pooling Intellectual Capital: Thoughts of Anonymity, Pseudonymity, and Limited Liability in Cyberspace, 1996 U. Chi. Legal F. 139; Lee Tien, Innovation and the Information Environment: Who's Afraid of Anonymous Speech? McIntyre and the Internet, 75 Or. L. Rev. 117 (1996).

Because the First Amendment protects the right to speak anonymously, a subpoena for anonymous speakers' names and addresses is subject to a qualified privilege. And, as in other cases in which litigants seek privileged information, courts must consider the privilege before authorizing discovery. See Sony Music Entmn't v. Does, 326 F.Supp.2d 556,565 (S.D.N.Y. 2004) ("Against the backdrop of First Amendment protection for anonymous speech, courts have held that civil subpoenas seeking information regarding anonymous individuals raise First Amendment concerns.").

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396920)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:17 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

I dont think you understand the hilarity:

Date: November 10th, 2007 12:59 AM

Author: AK47

it's actually an interesting case. if you actually understood the issues or were familiar with any of the legal issues presented in it, i'd discuss it with you. thank goodness people like you never become prestigious lawyers or judges.

(Dear AK47 - Was it worth it?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396924)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

ROFL

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397003)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

fucking THANK YOU

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397056)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:10 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

Lulz, NYU grads. Stick to basketball, whokebe!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396892)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: excitant pearl mediation lodge

AK47 = whokebe? i mean, i wouldn't be surprised but he still posts here under like 45 different monikers, right?

also, whokebe/AK47 went to NYU?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396905)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 8:13 PM
Author: Garnet exciting jewess

whokebe went to Stern undergrad, everybody knows that.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398048)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:13 PM
Author: ultramarine marvelous partner

whokebe would never live in vallejo.

hth.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396906)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:15 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

Is the lawsuit worth it, for this alone?

Possibly.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396917)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:17 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

oh yes it is

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396921)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

TITCR.

I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the Does trace back to that one IP.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396926)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: Apoplectic idea he suggested

Was AK47 named in the original filing?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396935)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Azure Lay Idiot

i don't think so. i think he was added later.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396960)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:26 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

I think he was added in the amended complaint, after he made comments about the Does when the lawsuit was originally filed (someone correct me here if I'm wrong)

That makes it doubley lulz-worthy, if I remember the timeline correctly. Even sweeter is that after he was added he came to the board laughing off the lawsuit, saying he'd never be outted.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396969)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

yeah. seriously what a faggot. he knows there's litigation pending but doesnt stfu and tosses out "so and so should be raped."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396999)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:27 PM
Author: cerebral location

Yeah. I felt pretty bad for AHWIAB but I think this puts me in the Doe section of the bleachers.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396974)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead

Will he be disbarred?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396931)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

If he wrote that brief, I doubt he is an attorney; but if he is, he should be disbarred just because of how terrible it is.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396939)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:25 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

pretty sure he's transactional

i guess he doesnt write memos/briefs too often. lol.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396964)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: blue zippy mad-dog skullcap step-uncle's house

Has anyone confirmed this? Haven't they made up lawsuit related stuff before?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396932)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:18 PM
Author: ultramarine marvelous partner

So can we assume AK47 works in SF and takes the ferry to work?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396933)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead

Yes, and he said he was from the Bay Area.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396936)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:23 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

Why the hell would he live in Vallejo? It always sounded like he worked in SF--Vallejo to SF is a shitty commute and Vallejo sucks.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396953)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: vigorous sneaky criminal reading party

i just looked up my ip address. it shows a nearby city, but not the one i live in.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396993)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Correct. This traces back to the ISP, not to the specific address of the internet user. Someone living in SF could very easy trace back to SBC in Vallejo.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397007)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

OIC

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397012)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:19 PM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

i think he has a good argument (so far as i have read on blb).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396938)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:22 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

"This Motion presents the Court with the issue of what standard should be applied to determine whether, in this particular case, the right to obtain redress from a silly statement on Autoadmit.com outweighs John Doe 21's First Amendment right to make speak anonymously."



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396950)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Apoplectic idea he suggested

I guess this proves he might be AZN.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396958)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

LOL

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396959)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:24 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Rape is silly!!!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396962)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: cerebral location

Silly statement jurisprudence is quite a legal thicket indeed.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396979)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:29 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

making speak is another undeniably murky area of law.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396986)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:31 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

1 billion.

This is the second time you've made me laugh out loud at work today. ty.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396995)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: cerebral location

yw, yw

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397037)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:28 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

Do a "control-f" on that page for silly. It's awesome.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396983)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:29 PM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

well it seems like it could be edited over a few times, but he has done some research and apparently all federal cases to address the issue apply a favorable balancing test.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396987)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:30 PM
Author: bisexual copper skinny woman codepig

Obama is right. This really is SILLY SEASON.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9396990)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:33 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

nice callback!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397291)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

fake, lame attempt to drive traffic to that board. No one reads that, so why would anything show up there first? FAKE

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397001)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

hi ak47!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397009)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:34 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

stupid, it's obviously fake

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397021)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: bisexual copper skinny woman codepig

BLB scopes AA on the lawsuit all the time:

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=10134&x=83

http://www.biglawboard.com/blb/viewThread.jsp?threadId=9406&x=86

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397028)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

who reads that board? it gets like 10 hits per day.

Someone either confirms with a real link or its fake

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397036)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:11 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

You're right, someone spent 3 days researching and preparing a fake brief in order to drive 100 more hits over to BLB. You cracked the case, gumshoe!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397173)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:18 PM
Author: cheese-eating boltzmann tanning salon

Owned.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398603)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:04 PM
Author: Apoplectic idea he suggested

Damn you. I just spit my coke all over my laptop. Gumshoe did me in.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398831)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:32 PM
Author: maroon dragon

So he apparently either goes to Hastings, San Fran, Golden Gate (lulz), or Cal Western

anyone care to venture a guess which one?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397005)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:33 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Trustafarian strikes again?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397010)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:34 PM
Author: maroon dragon

I think that dood went to Davis

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397016)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

he went to boalt

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397024)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Boalt.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397025)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:37 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

I'm pretty sure he graduated. He was very active in Bar exam threads at one point.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397035)



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Date: March 4th, 2008 9:24 AM
Author: brilliant razzmatazz theater stage

Hastings.

UC Hastings College of THE Law

Hastings or Fordham for BIGLAW in CA?

List The Schools You Got a Full Ride To.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425635)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:35 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

He was pretty stupid to respond in the way he did. He should have denied that the IP was his and disputed the accuracy of the records at the ISP.

The way he responded shows that it actually was him.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397023)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:36 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

This seems exactly wrong.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397029)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:38 PM
Author: maroon dragon

dooder I used to work for an ISP and I can tell you that would not have been a successful approach at all. it would be like trying to claim a phone number isn't yours, even though you paid the bills and made calls from the phone that it was assigned to

his only chance is to try to convince the judge that he should be able to remain anonymous

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397040)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

it has worked in RIAA suits dood.

this is what has caused grandmothers and 6 year olds to get named in RIAA suits.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397058)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:43 PM
Author: maroon dragon

link?

ppl always tried to claim our records were wrong and I would have to either go testify or sign a sworn affidavit saying why they were wrong

it never went any further than that

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397063)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

plenty of it here http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397078)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: maroon dragon

nah, you're just confusing lame legal arguments with legal precedent

ppl always try to argue that the records are wrong but its very simple to show that they're accurate

I've never heard of anyone winning on that argument, and neither have you

the kiddie porn people always tried to make that argument too, and it never worked

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397084)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:51 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

please explain to me then how grandmothers who have never heard of "mp3" get sued then

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397093)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

I believe the case you're referring to was a situation in which a grandmother got sued for the file-sharing done on her account by a grandchild. It wasn't a case of mistaken IP address.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397099)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:54 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

"the case" ?? It has happened a lot more than once

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397107)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:00 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Link? I've only heard one such claim made before and tend to think this is simply anti-RIAA mythology.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397129)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:10 PM
Author: maroon dragon

titcr

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397166)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

2005

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6038.cfm

2003

"She does not trade music, she says, does not have any younger music-loving relatives living with her, and does not use her computer for much more than sending e-mail and checking the tides."

http://www.boingboing.net/2003/09/25/riaa-sues-grandmothe.html

another one

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/27/woman_sues_riaa/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397299)



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Date: February 29th, 2008 2:20 PM
Author: maroon dragon

these are cases where the ISP obviously made an error, and in these cases, it can be shown exactly what their error was...

this is a situation where the ISP simply goes back and looks at its records and says, "oops, yeah, we fucked up. that IP address really belonged to John Doe and not this old woman."

In which case, the RIAA just goes after the correct offender

In the vast majorty of cases though, the person who the ISP identifies as the offender is going to be the correct offender, and if that person challenges the accuracy of the ISPs records, the ISP will simply have someone go to court to testify to their authenticity or sign a sworn affidavit to that effect (which is what usually happens since people who know they are guilty don't spend too much time challenging this since they know they can and will be shown to be the offender anyway).

this is done all the time dooder

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9406528)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:52 PM
Author: maroon dragon

because they own the account from which the alleged infringement was taking place.

as the named account holder, they are deemed to be responsible, unless they can present evidence that it was another member of the household

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397100)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

Also, look at the recent motion to quash that was filed in oregon. I know it was for the university and not an ISP but the same arguments would probably work.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397081)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:07 PM
Author: sable stubborn plaza

Question @ Lamronba: What about wireless internet connections? I know in the past I've logged into wifi connections of my surrounding apt neighbors, albeit by accident. Whats to say an IP address was not used by someone other than the person who payed the bills?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398326)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:14 PM
Author: sable stubborn plaza

??

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398358)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:15 PM
Author: Frozen Generalized Bond

Plausible explanation. To tell the difference I think they'd have to have a MAC address.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398361)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 10:28 AM
Author: maroon dragon

this is a bit of a gray area. as a matter of our company policy, we held the account holder responsible, but there's not a lot of legal precedent here

however, it's also a violation of state law in a lot of places for internet subscribers to redistribute or otherwise make available (i.e., not securing their wireless network) the internet connection that they pay their ISPs for, and we nailed people on that alone more than once.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400377)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 8:12 PM
Author: Dashing twinkling uncleanness trailer park

what a completely inane idea.

and have you ever heard of the concept "arguing in the alternative"?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398040)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

Also, AK47, we know you're reading this thread.

PWNED

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397052)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:41 PM
Author: nyuug

lol

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397055)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: offensive persian

wgwag

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397059)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:42 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

Date: November 10th, 2007 1:25 AM

Author: AK47

IIED is a nigger of a tort. you're right that it'd be fucked up if i were outed. you're definitely right about that. but again, IIED, defamation, or whatever the hell they're alleging AK47 did, is a hell of a nigger of a tort. NIGGER.

Dear AK47 - Was it worth it?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397060)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:44 PM
Author: cerebral location

This really should have been incorporated in his brief.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397066)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

180 again. On fire today

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397079)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:56 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

lulz

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397111)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:56 PM
Author: french wonderful new version church building

I think that's going to be in the order the judge enters.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397112)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:45 PM
Author: Galvanic coiffed dingle berry circlehead

Odds AK47 dropped the N-bomb in his brief?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397068)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:46 PM
Author: crystalline shaky degenerate trump supporter

His outting will be the biggest in xo history it seems. Have other outted posters made such inflammatory posts?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397076)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:48 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office

The only other one that would be as legendary is pauliewalnuts, but he never said anything that inflammatory, and there's a good chance that he was pensive anyway.

So yeah, AK47 would be absolutely raped... er, fucked over.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397082)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:47 PM
Author: Diverse internal respiration

Nice try... You are sooooooo getting sued and outted.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398488)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:53 PM
Author: blue zippy mad-dog skullcap step-uncle's house

I don't see anything about this on PACER. Where did they get it?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397101)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 4:58 PM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

ha the ali g ice cream gloves defense (internet search for ice cream: 73,239 hits. Internet search for gloves: 24,243 hits):

"Indeed, a Google.com search for "Jill" produces more than 74,000,000 results, and a search for Doe II's first name produces more than 46,000,000. If John Doe 21's words are indeed actionable, then John Doe 21 - along with any other person that mentions "Jill" or Doe II's innumerably common first name on the Internet in the context of an unsavory, if silly, suggestion or opinion - may have opened himself to nearly 120,000,000 lawsuits."



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397120)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:15 PM
Author: Territorial Autistic French Chef Home

nice Ali G reference

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397191)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:05 PM
Author: geriatric vermilion brunch antidepressant drug

Can someone explain in laymen's terms what happened here? I'm not comfortable with the legal jargon and don't feel like deciphering all of that stuff at work.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397146)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:07 PM
Author: Lascivious Cerise Area

does subpoena AT&T for IP address related to AK47

AK47 moves 3rd party to quash the subpoena, i.e. to keep AT&T from responding

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397150)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:09 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

"legal jargon"?

You don't what the words "quash" and "subpoena" mean?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397162)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:24 PM
Author: Awkward market

those words constitute legal jargon dooder.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397232)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:13 PM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

GTO sold him out:

"Plaintiffs are attempting to intimidate John Doe 21 in much the same way that Plaintiffs intimidated and the original principal defendant in this case, Anthony Ciolli, into providing Does with the internet protocol ("IP") addresses of John Doe 21 and the other Defendants. Defendant Ciolli provided Plaintiffs with John Doe 21's IP address despite the lack of any legal duty or mandate to do so. Defendant Ciolli is immune from liability under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which states that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider," and effectively immunizes ISPs, Internet discussion board operators such as Mr. Ciolli, and other service providers from torts committed by users over their systems. However, Defendant Ciolli acquiesced to the demands of Plaintiffs, no doubt because of the prospect of litigating an expensive suit in federal court."

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397183)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:21 PM
Author: tantric foreskin

What would it take to get GTO to sell out JBD?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397218)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:15 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Some googling and investigating has led me to this conclusion:

AK47 = old xoxo poster Chauncey

--

AK47's subpoenaed IP address is 75.18.198.98

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A google search of 75.18.198.98 turns up a comment made by a user named "Chauncey" on the website blackprof.com http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/072007.txt

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"Chauncey" is a frequent commentator on that site. See, e.g.,

COMMENT:

AUTHOR: Chauncey

EMAIL:

IP: 75.18.187.200

URL:

DATE: 06/29/2007 04:41:57 PM

blacks in america will stay poor and violent as long as they consider it an insult when anyone tells them they need to take more responsibility for their predicament. personality, i don't really care: i've already made it. if you people want to maintain the status-quo, then go right ahead.

http://www.blackprof.com/archives/exports/062007.txt

--

And finally, here's a post from xoxo's Chauncey where he admits to living in SF:

Date: August 19th, 2005 12:19 PM

Author: Chauncey

and to think. I used to be repulsed by the flambouyancy (sp?) of gay men. i live in san francisco.

please, please hurry up and die of AIDS, all of you.

(SLS and YLS fags)

--

Okay xoxo investigators: get to work looking through blackprof and autoadmit archives to try and track down more information about this guy.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397189)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:16 PM
Author: nyuug

lol oh snap

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397198)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:18 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

LOL. Damn, AK47 is a true psycho

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397208)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:25 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

He appears to hold himself out on the blackprof site as a successful black man who is critical of today's black community, but here he is on xoxo admitting that he's Jewish:

Date: September 20th, 2005 1:47 AM

Author: Chauncey

As a flaming jooooooo, I can definitively confirm that it is pronounced "Sun- STEEN."

(How do you pronounce Posner?)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397240)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:35 PM
Author: Well-lubricated passionate heaven milk

one of the rare black jews?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397300)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:46 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

there was a gay black jew guy on the Real World once. He slapped some chick on the show and almost got kicked off. Was on the west coast too! (Seattle? I believe).

Anyways, this could be him, same demeanor. Wow we may have a real celebrity in our midst.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398740)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:20 PM
Author: maroon dragon

wowzer!

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397214)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:24 PM
Author: geriatric vermilion brunch antidepressant drug

i used to think the racism was schtick. now i doubt it.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397237)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:27 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Same here. It's truly frightening. I also used to be convinced that people like aznazn are schtick, but I no longer believe so. This place attracts some truly fucked up psychotics.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397258)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: cerebral location

At some point, even if it's meant to be schtick, the relentless pursuit of the schtick is itself evidence of psychosis.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397294)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:47 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

now maybe people will believe me when I say hizzla is real and not schtick. because I've met her and it's true, she's not schtick. gahhh

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398746)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:26 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

NOW THIS IS PRICELESS!

OP: getting sued by RIAA/MPAA for copyright infringement

Date: August 26th, 2005 11:33 PM

Author: Chauncey

You're an idiot for getting caught, if that's any help.

(getting sued by RIAA/MPAA for copyright infringement...)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397252)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:33 PM
Author: Cream locale azn

Welcome to last month.

ITT I summarize the Doe's requests for IPs in the new filing

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397286)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 5:34 PM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Yes, but we now know it is Ak47. This was not known last month.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397296)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:06 AM
Author: Irradiated effete piazza

One of those CA posts that got deleted called this one.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399398)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 6:15 PM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

The real question is, why did the faggots at BLB notice the filing and start the thread before the XOXOers?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397537)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 6:19 PM
Author: brilliant razzmatazz theater stage

Because no one on XO is an actual attorney or has access to PACER? It's all HS dropout flame?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397557)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:10 PM
Author: Arousing submissive toaster police squad

Anyone can get access to PACER. I set up an account a few weeks ago to search for something for my brother. It only charges you when it gets to $10.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397763)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:00 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle lemon site

Because someone over there impulsively checks justia?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397725)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:04 PM
Author: frum institution

It's not on justia.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397733)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:30 PM
Author: cheese-eating boltzmann tanning salon

BLB posters are former XOXO regulars who got sick of all the garbage on here. As a result, BLB posts are of higher quality than XOXO posts. By far. That's why XOXO trolls emphasize the lack of quantity and ignore quality.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398658)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:09 PM
Author: odious learning disabled feces

WAIT, HOW'D THEY GET HIS IP? I thought there were no IP logs?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397757)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:14 PM
Author: Stimulating Doobsian University Brethren

according to the AK47 brief, GTO told plaintiffs. that doesn't necessarily mean that Rach kept logs.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397778)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:11 PM
Author: Frozen Generalized Bond

GTO somehow had knowledge of his IP address and remembered it among others? wtf?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398346)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 7:19 PM
Author: harsh lime pisswyrm native

180.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9397805)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 8:20 PM
Author: Territorial Autistic French Chef Home

AK47 was a well known spammer, Rach/GTO logged spammer IPs to ban them

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398075)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 8:24 PM
Author: spectacular pervert fanboi

This is actually a very good point. If it turns out that nobody else but AK is outed, I think it's most likely what happened.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398098)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 9:37 PM
Author: vigorous sneaky criminal reading party



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398441)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:01 PM
Author: bipolar cuckoldry business firm

"Plaintiffs filed the original Complaint on June 8, 2007... alleging that certain posters on Autoadmit.com, a discussion site known for its silly banter and a pretty fucking shitty source of information, see http://xoxo-a-pretty-shitty-source-of-information.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=184688&mc=381&forum_id=2..."



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398541)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:36 PM
Author: costumed overrated stead potus

Whether he deserves it or not, if GTO sold him out, GTO is a piece of shit.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398688)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:40 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

dood, GTO lost his fucking legal career due to this shit. If I were him why would I care about protecting AK47?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398703)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:44 PM
Author: costumed overrated stead potus

The only thing left the fucker has is his dignity. His whole purpose here was to protect people's identity in order to create an environment in which people could say whatever they wanted. He has betrayed his prinicples.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398730)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:04 PM
Author: Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal

titcr. don't forget his holier-than-thou attitude when he was interacting with volokh back when.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398828)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:59 PM
Author: Ocher Tattoo

what would he gain at this point from helping any party?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398810)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:49 PM
Author: Dashing twinkling uncleanness trailer park

do you also believe "it's all about respect" and "it's wrong to be a tattle tale"?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398756)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 10:57 PM
Author: costumed overrated stead potus

no, wtf are you talking about?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9398801)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:52 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

lol at you for thinking that it's more dignified for him to aid ak47 than seeking to placate the does

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399032)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:42 PM
Author: bespoke death wish hairy legs

I am not a lawyer. Explain to me why I can't express my desire that specific individuals be raped.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399005)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:49 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

cuz when you do it on a message board that the individuals' community reads, its intentional infliction of emotional distress. especially when it's part of a larger mob assault on the individuals' reputation and peace of mind.

redress for injury and deterring antisocial behavior are core principles of tort law, you simpleton faggot.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399026)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:01 AM
Author: bespoke death wish hairy legs

thanks mang. you're right, I should be aware of the core principles of tort law, not being a lawyer and all. my bad.

something just seems off about the whole thing. honestly, I have no idea how intentional infliction of emotional distress is proved. does it make a difference if it was intended as a joke? I mean, you could look at all that guys' posts and I'm guessing he's wished rape on a lot of people.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399051)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:43 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

i don't see what's off. given the context (a board campaign to harass the does), i think his motives are clear enough--certainly clear enough to support the subpeona. i have no idea about the specific standard for IIED in that jurisdiction, but it seems obvious to me that the traditional elements are met.

i think it sounds strange to you cuz if he's punished, it seems like we're all vulnerable. but then again, having a hair trigger on your gun doesn't justify shooting someone.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399272)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:44 AM
Author: 180 maize field water buffalo

There were some posts and actions that I believe constitute IIED.

I don't think 'Doe and doe should be raped' is even close, though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399724)



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Date: February 27th, 2008 11:48 PM
Author: Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/connecticut/ctdce/3:2007cv00909/78132/25/

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399023)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:14 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

TYTYTYTY

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399120)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:54 AM
Author: Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode

Wow. Unbelievable. There are some solid legal points in there, but they're pretty much lost amid the hyperbole and snide remarks.

Hint: if you want a court to rule in your favor, don't whine about how the suit has wasted your (and the court's) time. Just make your arguments and be done with it. If it really is a waste of time, the judge will be able to figure it out on his (or her) own. The attempts to rationalize the comments are the worst. They read like the rants of a petulant five year old. It's sad, because there are some seeds of legal analysis - quite possibly enough to win the motion - amidst the almost 30 pages of bile. But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain to lead a judge to rule against him.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399336)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:00 AM
Author: frum institution

"But the tone and lack of propriety is almost certain to lead a judge to rule against him."

Um, no. I take it you have never clerked.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399366)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:05 AM
Author: Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode

i should have said "almost certain to lead a judge to look for any possible reason to rule against him."

obviously, tone alone won't make you lose if the law is on your side. but if you piss off the judge with a rambling, insulting 30 page response, the benefit of the doubt will go the other way when the law is murky.

but who knows. maybe the response will amuse the judge and the subpoena will be quashed.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399395)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:20 AM
Author: frum institution

The comment is so crude that it may almost certainly "lead a judge to look for any possible reason to rule against him," like you said.But there's almost no doubt in my mind that the subpoena will be quashed. Even without getting into all the nitty gritty details of pseudonymous internet speech, the fact that there's virtually no way that the comment can be tied specifically to Doe II even if there was more discovery is pretty damning.

Certainly the crassness of the comment & his tone (and the excessive length) of his motion would draw a snide comment or two from the judge if there was a hearing or written ruling.

It's too bad for the Ps that this is one of the few (only?) Defendants whose IP address they uncovered.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399465)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:34 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

you seem not to realize how a normal IRL person reads a line like "X and Y should be raped". especially when Y is the first name of a famous board figure. its completely absurd to argue that he was referring to someone else, or speaking in generalizations

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399519)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:42 AM
Author: frum institution

You seem to not realize that there are literally millions of different topics posted about here- not just the Does- and that AK47's comment ("Women named [X] and [Y] should be raped") cannot be interpreted as referring to a specific individual. Especially since one of the names has nothing to do with the Does. If you take the situation and apply it IRL instead of on this board, it doesn't even pass the laugh test. Especially for an IIED claim.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399544)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:45 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

theres assloads of circumstantial evidence. and this is a subpeona in a civil suit. he's going to be outted dood.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399553)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:52 AM
Author: frum institution

We shall see. I look forward to reading the Opposition.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399575)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:50 AM
Author: 180 maize field water buffalo

'raped' in that context means 'I hope bad things happen to' someone as much or more than it means 'sexually assaulted'.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399752)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:12 AM
Author: sinister demanding nursing home

I appreciated smart-ass writing when I was clerking.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399428)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:21 AM
Author: Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode

did you read it? i'd argue there's a difference between smart-ass and immature/petulant, and this is waaaay more the latter. it wasn't clever, it was just pathetic and whiny.

and it doesn't help when it's coming from a defendant that is already a rather unsympathetic figure.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399469)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:23 AM
Author: frum institution

Almost all pro per/pro se papers are whiny, angry, and rambling.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399480)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:12 AM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

that would be funny if he put his real name in the return address section on the envelope

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399427)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:13 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Wow, this may be the highlight of the brief:

"The fact that Plaintiffs gratuitously mentioned one "R--n M-----r" in their moving documents (see, e.g., Plaintiffs' Memorandum of Law in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery at 11) suggests that Plaintiffs' true goal in filing the complaint and this subpoena is simply to expose the identity of the Defendants in this case, humiliate them by attributing to them the comments made on the site, coerce them into silence, and then abandon the case due to its frivolity. Indeed, R--n M-----r has already been parodied, insulted and attacked on the Autoadmit site due to his name appearing in Plaintiffs' moving papers. A Google.com search for "R--n M-----r" produces, as thefirstfour results, four Autoadmit threads in which R--n M-----r is alleged to be a "dirty snitching nigger" due to his connection with this case."

AK47 begging the court to protect his identity so that nobody on xoxo can call him a "nigger" deserves a true 180.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399433)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:22 AM
Author: frum institution

Yeah, I really would have left out that part. He's basically asking the Court to spare him the same treatment that the Ds gave to the Does. Not very sympathetic at all.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399475)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:10 AM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

after the original suit was filed, did GTO have the duty not to destroy records relevant to the litigation? maybe ak47's stupid idea to post after the suit was his undoing.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399088)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:50 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

wow, i can't believe KVN/YLS are enlisted to engage this sort of nonsense:

Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint alleges that John Doe 21's comment constitutes a description of "sexual violence" against the plaintiff whose first name was mentioned in the comment. Amended Complaint at §§ 43-i; 49. As explained above, however, John Doe's comment was not a "description" of anything. He was not "describing" an event he had perceived, nor was he "describing" an event that had transpired or was to transpire. In any event, if "descriptions of sexual violence" were sufficient, in whole or in part, to bring an action for intentional infliction of emotional distress, then hundreds of thousands of police officers and crisis counselors across the country would be open to lawsuits alleging intentional infliction of emotional distress since they routinely articulate "descriptions of sexual violence" against persons. Courts should not countenance such a blatant abuse of the legal system to unveil and intimidate anonymous speakers, and it is rather offensive that Plaintiffs are attempting to appeal to this Courts' sympathies by misquoting John Doe 21's comment and lumping it with other more offensive comments, thereby attributing those other comments to John Doe 21.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399311)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:56 AM
Author: Fragrant Scarlet Half-breed Abode

That has to be the best quote from the entire response. Second would be the 120,000,000 Jills rant.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399354)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:05 AM
Author: Territorial Autistic French Chef Home

jesus christ that is horrible reasoning

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399393)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:10 AM
Author: tantric foreskin

There's probably an argument in there somewhere.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399414)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:54 AM
Author: 180 maize field water buffalo

I think it's decent, ignoring the police/counselor crap part.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399757)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:42 AM
Author: Aromatic dilemma depressive

lol.. cops and crisis counselors may describe sexual violence but they don't openly call on others to commit it either.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399546)



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Date: March 4th, 2008 9:51 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Yellow Puppy Love Of Her Life

his argument focuses on the word "description" but he only quoted the words "sexual violence" from the Ps' complaint

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425678)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:53 AM
Author: Fluffy thriller bbw regret

holy shit. the greatest moment in the history of this long board. in so many ways, i completely fucking loathe the racist megaposter, but we might as well shut it down because there will never be anything as awesome as this here ever again.

that said, fuck you racist megaposter.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399330)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:35 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

titcr. this is like the barzini pwnage only with way more schadenfreude

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399521)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:40 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Damn, I almost forgot about the barzini pwnage. I wonder what the hell that kid is up to. I can't even imagine him functioning without xoxo. He was the original aznazn.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399536)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:51 AM
Author: Fluffy thriller bbw regret

i'm not one of the D's, obviously, but this kind of made me want to file another motion to quash that raised these legal issues without all the piffle. i'd just mail it anonymously claiming to be one of the posters, and while i don't like AK47 i think the does are being ridiculous about this and responding to a spitball with an a-bomb.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399571)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:58 AM
Author: Nudist puce parlor

what was the barzini pwnage? I have been posting here for 3 years and still don't know.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399597)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:01 AM
Author: Hideous olive office

IIRC: posted here about a girl he had a date with or something, showed pics. someone who knew her IRL recognized her from pics, emailed her links of barzini threads. game over.

thread: you jerks, i got pwn3d

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399606)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:04 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Highlight of the thread in retrospect:

Date: April 13th, 2006 5:25 AM

Author: The Meanest Fish (ret.)

This is seriously among the most fucked up things that's happened here. Whoever did this is a little bitch.

(you jerks, i got pwn3d)

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Date: April 13th, 2006 5:27 AM

Author: AK47

it looks like he deserved it.

(you jerks, i got pwn3d)



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399615)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:08 AM
Author: Hideous olive office

lol good find

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399626)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:49 AM
Author: Aromatic dilemma depressive

I personally hate AK47 and think 99% of this response is hyperbolic bullshit. However, one of his points resonates with me. His post, while incendiary as hell, did not constitute a specific reference to the Does. He should not have been named in the complaint.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399566)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:53 AM
Author: frum institution

I am generally sympathetic to the Does and I agree.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399577)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 1:57 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

This is true, but the implication was plenty clear to the intended audience. That might be enough to get them past discovery, but not to succeed on the merits.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399590)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:17 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

I think after the Does were initially "outted", they were thrown to the wolves as de facto public figures. Does that mean AK47 needed actual malice to be liable for IIED? If so, I would argue that actual malice is impossible when your incendiary comment lacked adequate identifying information, even if one COULD reasonably infer he was referring to them based on context.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399658)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:23 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

This doesn't make any sense. If there's no specific (or implicit?) identification, you never even get to the actual malice issue.

Even if it made sense, there's no reasonable argument to be made that the plaintiffs were public figures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399671)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:25 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

Once PaulieWalnuts plastered this public message board with the names and pics of the women they became public figures. Subsequent comments made about them by other posters were in reference to these newly minted public figures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399676)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:27 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

psa: you can't invent legal definitions whenever you feel like it

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399681)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:30 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

For all you know, I am a Supreme Court Justice and have every right to do so.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399686)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:45 AM
Author: Bright Federal Theatre

go to bed clarence, you're up way too late

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399731)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:50 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

I can't get enough of this black on white porn on the net bro. Keeps me up all hours o' the night.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399754)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:30 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

That's not nearly enough to make them public figures. They certainly are not general public figures, and it's not even clear that case law recognizes an involuntary limited public figure.

The key issue is whether there was a defamatory statement. That's where the identification issue comes in. The public figure/actual malice issues are pretty cut and dry. They're private figures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399684)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:33 AM
Author: Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal

dont see any defamation on AK's part. Maybe IIED, but not defamation.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399692)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:37 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Yeah, you're right. Which makes the entire public figure/actual malice discussion irrelevant as far as AK47 goes.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399704)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:39 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

So there's no higher intent threshold for public figures when it comes to IIED?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399713)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:47 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

If I recall correctly, the actual malice standard only applies in IIED cases where you're dealing with 1.) a public figure; and 2.) matters of public concern.

Discussion of whether people name X and Y should be raped doesn't qualify as "matters of public concern." So it doesn't matter if the plaintiffs are public figures (which they obviously are not).

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399741)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:51 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

Thanks for clearing that up for me

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399755)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 10:55 AM
Author: honey-headed party of the first part orchestra pit

i don't know if there is such a 2-part test...that jerry falwell case was about some playboy article that just parodied some liquor ad and talked about his "first time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

that said, Doe is not a public figure and can't become one just b/c of her initiating litigation.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400446)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:41 AM
Author: Lavender Personal Credit Line Son Of Senegal

I think ol' AK wins on the merits, but not so sure about quashing the subpoena.

But query if his firm fires him nonetheless.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399717)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:56 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

This is probably right. If he can't quash the subpoena, you can be damn sure that he'll get the axe from his firm and be blackballed. Just look at what happened to GTO, who was never even accused of making any inflammatory or derogatory statements. The merits of the suit are practically irrelevant as far as AK47's career is concerned.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399758)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:24 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

to become an involuntary public figure, you have to act/fail to act in a way in which a reasonable person would understand that publicity would ensue. HTH.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399674)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:29 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

Attending the number one ranked law school in the country and flaunting yourself on youtube documentaries discussing your past extracurricular accomplishments might constitute acting in a way which a reasonable person would understand that publicity would ensue.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399682)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:31 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

you don't know what you're talking about, you should just drop this theory

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399689)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:35 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

Pardon me if I don't think going to Yale Law School isn't exactly living a Walden-esque lifestyle.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399697)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:38 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

Lol. The legal definition of a private figure doesn't require a Walden-esque lifestyle.

99% of the public are private figures.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399711)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:52 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

and 99% of the public doesn't go to YLS. hth

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399756)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 3:01 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

This logic is inscrutable.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399761)



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Date: February 29th, 2008 4:58 AM
Author: sexy scourge upon the earth

this is far and away the dumbest thing ive read in my entire life. you are a moron.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404767)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:34 AM
Author: Bistre deep forum

You're out of your element. While defining a public figure is extremely difficult to do, this isn't even a close call.

Attending a top law school and being in a video on youtube does not make one a public figure.



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399696)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:37 AM
Author: Cocky Indecent Athletic Conference Parlour

The higher up the social ladder you climb, more people can see you from below

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399706)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:15 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy National

"did not constitute a specific reference to the Does"

this is an open factual matter that turns on circumstantial evidence (other AK47 posts, posts from other monikers at that domain) and AK47's credibility, which isn't helped by the fact that everyone in his right mind knows who he was talking about.

the most defendant friendly rule for subpoenas in anonymous posting cases is that P must have enough evidence to defeat SJ.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399653)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:11 AM
Author: self-absorbed buff people who are hurt ratface

Wow.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399636)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 2:43 AM
Author: Exhilarant white dog poop useless brakes

i am so glad I am a grl with no interest in grls or grls called Heidi

fuck

xoxogenderdickpwned

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399720)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 4:11 AM
Author: vigorous sneaky criminal reading party

what go around come around, kid

what are his other monikers? is he Whitepride?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9399822)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 11:00 AM
Author: Aromatic dilemma depressive

obviously

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400469)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 12:13 PM
Author: Primrose immigrant theater

No.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9400735)



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Date: February 28th, 2008 7:22 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy rehab indirect expression

First, what is the expected timeline here? Does anyone know when an outing would occur, assuming the subpoena is not squashed?

Also, odds that noted CA litigator 174/AK-47 is working both sides of this case?

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9402508)



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Date: February 29th, 2008 3:16 AM
Author: Bearded ladyboy

"Also, odds that noted CA litigator 174/AK-47 is working both sides of this case?"

This would be hilarious.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404556)



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Date: March 12th, 2008 1:45 AM
Author: razzle famous landscape painting

You mean the odds that AK47 actually works at KVM? HOLY FUCK wouldn't that be hilarious? He would DEFINITELY get fired on the spot for cause and disbarred for that. It would make a hell of a great story though.

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466325)



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Date: February 29th, 2008 2:59 AM
Author: Mind-boggling dopamine



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9404515)



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Date: March 4th, 2008 9:29 AM
Author: brilliant razzmatazz theater stage

Date: April 19th, 2007 12:36 AM

Author: AK47

in fairness, the people who post about raping jill F are 100 lb gay men with AIDS.

(I'm the Hastings "tattle-tale"- Taking your fucking qu)

(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9425645)



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Date: March 12th, 2008 1:37 AM
Author: Umber vibrant station gunner



(https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=774741&forum_id=2#9466308)